You are not logged in. Please login or register.
The NASTE Forum → Posts by wb0s
Thanks Rico, you're very welcome!
I think Diane must have had The Evil One sedated?
I was very pleased at how close the competition was! There were a bunch of different brands of cars as well as some scratchbuilt between the two classes, but they were all pretty close in performance. It was interesting!
I think there are going to be MANY cars that run well in the Classic Sports Car Class. I ran a few laps with a Scalextric MGB today and it worked very well without a traction magnet!
We will be racing at 8.6 volts Tuesday night. That seems to generate plenty of power considering how green and grip-less my track is!
As for the GT class, I'll be racin' a box stock Slot.It Ford GT40. Mostly because I'm lazy!.......................
---------------Bill
I snapped a few pictures at Rico's during the first NASTE Tuesday Night Race. Use the "Slot-Tech" tab on the main page to get to the NASTE Tuesday Night photos.
I did a little testing today in preparation for the upcoming NASTE Tuesday Night Race here at TooBad Motorplex. I think the Classic Sports Car Class is going to be a lot of fun! I tested 3 cars; a Ninco Corvette, Ninco AC Cobra, and a Carrera '67 Corvette Coupe. All testing was done at 8.6 volts, which seemed more than adequate.
First up the Carrera Corvette. This car was stock, except for the removal of the traction magnet. This car was the worst handling of the three. It definitely needs work to be competitive with the Ninco cars. Round rear wheels and tires, as well as some weight reduction would be the first step.
The Ninco AC Cobra also had no traction magnet. I replaced the rear wheels and tires with stock Ninco wheels and tires of the same narrow width as the AC Cobra fronts (per the Classic Sports Car rules). Even without weight this car ran great! I could use a little tuning to smooth it out some, but it still handled very well.
The Ninco Corvette proved to be the star! This car handled very well right out of the box! It out ran the other two without any modifications or tuning. Very smooth and stable.
----------------------more to come!
We did a lot more bench racing than actual car racing at the first NASTE Tuesday Night Race. However we did establish starting points for the next race.
Next race on next Tuesday July 31st: TooBad Motorplex in Fairview.
I will open the doors at 4:00 PM.
See you there! ---------------------------Bill
Definately some good bench racin' !
And the Kahlua & coffe was most excellent !!!!!
Hey Rico,
Thanks for hosting the first Tuesday night racing!
----------Bill
I think you need to add REAL water!!!!
Garage salin' today.
Bought a used Magna-Traction car......with a Quadra-Lam armature in it!!!!
SCORE!!!!!!
That's OK Rico. We'll attack when we see the door go up!
So what cars are you bringing to Rico's on Tuesday for the first event?
Anybody want to meet for a bite to eat somewhere before racin"?
---------------Bill
posted by wb0s:
From what I have seen on Ebay and sale or clearance items from online hobby shops, some Scalextric and SCX cars, and most Carrera cars are the least expensive to buy new. Some of the less popular cars like Fly Vipers (or Vipers of any brand for that matter), Fly Starter Series cars, and most brands of F1 cars can be purchased at reduced prices. I don't care much for the Carrera cars, they seem to require too much modification to make them perform well. I'd like to use cars that would be a good durable foundation to start on, that work well out of the box, but can be refined and improved. Cars that have performance parts readily available. I have had good results with Fly cars. Slot.It parts are readily available for Fly cars, and work in most cases without major modifications. I have some Fly Starter Series cars I am working on now. I picked up the Fly Porsche Starter cars for $17 new on Ebay.
posted by Rico:
I would agree that the Carrera cars can be bought cheap and that they are amoung the worst handling, least tunable slot cars. I"ve heard some of the newer releases may be slightly better than some of the older ones.
I think a single make series, say Porsche 911 GT-1's or Ford GT-40's might be a fun experiment. Ninco, Fly, Scalextric, Carrera and maybe somebody else make the Porsche's and Fly, Scalextric, Slot.it, MRRC and NSR all make GT-40's. Another potential car would be 911 GT3's which are made by AutoArt, Ninco, ProSlot, SCX,Carrera, Scalextric, NSR and porbably a few others I'm not thinking of. Fairly lax rules, maybe standard cans with a max RPM limit, urethane tires and see who can find a better mousetrap.
One other possibility is the Fly DP cars, lots of liveries and some slight variations in body styles coupled with being fairly cheap.
posted by wb0s:
I like the idea of the class being limited to a certain make/model of car, not manufacturer of the "slot car"/chassis. I think it would be fun and interesting to leave the rules loose to see what can be done to improve the cars handling without some much emphasis on overall speed from faster motors.
I was also thinking of ways to help make the newer racers more competitive. I was thinking of a winners list versus a racing series. Race winners would be added to the winners list with the dates and details recorded. Cars would be raced in non-magnetic traction configuration however, anyone who had not won yet won a race and are not on the "winners list" would be allowed the placement of one traction magnet on their car. After their first win they would have to remove the traction magnet. This would make it easier for new racers to participate and be competitive right off the bat. Plus it would make the racing much more challenging for the more experienced racers.
So what cars should we start with? What cars do most of us have already? What would be CHEAP to get?
posted by wb0s:
Up for consideration: a GT Class, which would include GT cars from ANY manufacturer, with the exclusion of Slot.It and NSR to help keep costs down. The rules are simple, a. cars must retain their original manufacturer's chassis, b. bodies must retain their overall stock appearance (no major cutting or trimming), c. chassis are limited to one guide flag or pin only.
A list of weekly winners will be recorded and kept. Any racer who has not scored a win will be allowed to run one traction magnet in their car. Once a racer has scored a win they must race non-magnetic traction cars only.
I heard a suggestion that we should look at keeping the class closer to an RTR type class, with limited modifications allowed to axles, gears, and easily swapped parts. Any comments?
So it's official, there will be racing on odd dated Thursday evenings!
We will get the dates, times, and locations posted on the calendar ASAP!
RULES:
Heat races will be 3 minutes in length. Keeping with a standard heat length will allow racers to keep statistics of their cars performance, as well as their own driving performance (if they choose to do so).
Two car classes were decided upon. Both classes will be raced each night (subject to change - dependant upon attendance).
Class 1 - Classic Sports Car. This class is open to classic and vintage sports cars. The current rules require the tire's contact patch to be .245" or less. The tire width set is that of Revell Classic cars, specifically the King Cobra and Porsche 904 *. Tires slightly wider than .245" can be narrowed to meet the rule. Examples of cars that are legal for this class are: Revell King Cobra and Porsche 904, Ninco Classics (i.e. Porsche 356, Jaguar XK120, Corvette, Jaguar "D" Type), old Revell 1/32 slot cars (i.e. Ferrari GTO & '65 Corvette), Carrera "D" Jag & '67 Corvette, Monogram Ferrari 275P, MRRC King Cobra & Porsche 904. This short list is not inclusive of all the possible cars, there are other brands that would fit this class with slight narrowing of the rear tires. A list of elligible cars will be developed as the racing progresses.
Class 2 - GT. With the exception of NSR & Racer cars, any enclosed cockpit (car must be of roofed - coupe or sedan design), and full fendered car is legal for this class. NSR & Racer cars are excluded to try to keep costs down and somewhat limit performance. However NSR parts may be used in cars of other manufacturers. Motors are limited to those developing no more than 21,500 RPM (this is based on the Slot.It orange endbell motors being the upper limit of performance - refer to the NASTE Motor List for Oregon Rally Championship)http://www.naste.org/files/Motor_List_O
I heard a suggestion that we should look at keeping the class closer to an RTR type class, with limited modifications allowed to axles, gears, and easily swapped parts. Any comments?
TooBad Motorplex will be participating in the Tuesday Night Races.
Let's move this topic over to the NASTE Forum as it involves more tracks than just mine.
-------------Bill
I think this class would offer some variety. As with most slot car racing classes, in stock configuration one or two types of cars will usually stand out as the best performing. But with the very basic rules, racers should be able to make just about any brand competitive, if they choose to.
Here's is preliminary list of eligible cars for the proposed GT class. The list is open to discussion for additions or deletions. I tried to exclude cars that have a lower/wider profile similar to LMP cars. ---------Bill
Carrera-
Porsche 935
Capri
Mercedes-Benz SLR
Ferrari 512 BB
BMW 2002
Opel GT
Opel Manta
Audi R8 GT
Fly-
Corvette C5R
Porsche 911 GT1
Marcos LM600
Porsche 911T
BMW 320
Porsche 934
BMW M3
Ford GT40
Ferrari F40
Porsche 911SC
Porsche 911S
Porsche 935
Lister Storm
BMW M1
Alfa Romeo Giulia
Ferrari 250 GTO
MB Slot-
Ferrari 430
Zonda
MRRC-
Porsche 911
Kellison
Ford GT MKIV
Ninco-
Porsche 934
Jaguar E-Type
McLaren F1 GTR
Lamborghini Murcielago
Lamborghini Diablo
Camaro
Lamborghini Gallardo
Porsche 911
Audi R8 GT3
Corvette GT3
Ford Mustang GT
Renault Megane
Ford GT
Lotus Exige
Revell-
NSU TT
BMW 320i
Cobra Daytona Coupe
Jaguar E-Type
Ferrari 250 GTO/LM
Scalextric-
Ford Mustang FR
Ford GT-R
Aston Martin DBR9
McLaren MP4-12C
Audi R8 LMS GT
Nissan GT-R
Ford GT40
Jaguar XKR GT3
Mercedes 300 SLR
Mercedes SLR
Porsche 997
Aston Martin DBS
BMW 320si
Porsche 911 GT3
Dodge Viper Coupe GS
Lamborghini Gallardo
Corvette C6R
Bugatti Veyron
Mercedes SLR McLaren
Camaro GT-R
SCX-
Aston Martin DBR9
Seat Toledo GT
Corvette C6R
BMW 320
Renault Megane
Ferrari 599 GTB
Porsche 911 GT3
So here's what's up for consideration:
1. Racing EVERY Tuesday night at one of many tracks in the greater Portland area. Currently BSCC races on Tuesday nights, races at other tracks would be scheduled for the Tuesday nights BSCC does not have races scheduled.
2. The various tracks will decide what car classes they want to race. For TooBad Motorplex I am considering a GT Class, which would include GT cars from ANY manufacturer, with the exclusion of Slot.It and NSR to help keep costs down. The rules are simple, a. cars must retain their original manufacturer's chassis, b. bodies must retain their overall stock appearance (no major cutting or trimming), c. chassis are limited to one guide flag or pin only.
3. At TooBad Motorplex a list of weekly winners will be recorded and kept. Any racer who has not scored a win will be allowed to run one traction magnet in their car. Once a racer has scored a win they must race non-magnetic traction cars only.
What do ya'll think? -------------------------Bill
I like the idea of the class being limited to a certain make/model of car, not manufacturer of the "slot car"/chassis. I think it would be fun and interesting to leave the rules loose to see what can be done to improve the cars handling without some much emphasis on overall speed from faster motors.
I was also thinking of ways to help make the newer racers more competitive. I was thinking of a winners list versus a racing series. Race winners would be added to the winners list with the dates and details recorded. Cars would be raced in non-magnetic traction configuration however, anyone who had not won yet won a race and are not on the "winners list" would be allowed the placement of one traction magnet on their car. After their first win they would have to remove the traction magnet. This would make it easier for new racers to participate and be competitive right off the bat. Plus it would make the racing much more challenging for the more experienced racers.
So what cars should we start with? What cars do most of us have already? What would be CHEAP to get?
----------------Bill
From what I have seen on Ebay and sale or clearance items from online hobby shops, some Scalextric and SCX cars, and most Carrera cars are the least expensive to buy new. Some of the less popular cars like Fly Vipers (or Vipers of any brand for that matter), Fly Starter Series cars, and most brands of F1 cars can be purchased at reduced prices. I don't care much for the Carrera cars, they seem to require too much modification to make them perform well. I'd like to use cars that would be a good durable foundation to start on, that work well out of the box, but can be refined and improved. Cars that have performance parts readily available. I have had good results with Fly cars. Slot.It parts are readily available for Fly cars, and work in most cases without major modifications. I have some Fly Starter Series cars I am working on now. I picked up the Fly Porsche Starter cars for $17 new on Ebay.
I'm planning to have another open track day soon. We can see what types of cars people already have, and try out some different cars to see what looks good. I'll try to have a few different types of cars available to test. I'm looking forward to getting something going for the eastside.
-------------------Bill
TooBad Motorplex is finally up and running! It's been a long two year process but the track is finally operational and race ready. To date there have been two rally event stages run on the track. I learned some things about the Trackmate lap counting system in the course of running the events.
So I'm at a point where I am thinking about having an open door casual race night during the week. Maybe every other week, on a week night. I'm trying to decide on a night, so I thought I'd throw it out to see if anyone is interested, and if so what night they would be interested in. Along with that I'd like to establish a class of car for racing that we could use as the primary class, and keep it active for a long period of time. I'd like the class to be as inexpensive as possible, and easy for new comers to get into.
So here's the questions I'm asking:
What night/evening would be good for a weekday racing night?
What class of car would be inexpensive and fun to race?
What is the cheapest good quality car that can be purchased (retail or Ebay)?
What is the most common car new enthusiasts buy?
Monte, Victoria, and Rico - GREAT event! That was a really fun day! Thank you! ------------Bill
TODAY is the day!
7:30 am and I just finished cleaning and checking my track. The Official NASTE Party Van will be leaving for Autumn Hills in an hour. I'm ready to race!
-----------------Bill
LOVE THAT VIDEO! I am PUMPED!
That'll work Monte. I will start the NASTE Party Van Event Tour at Rico's in Milwaukie. I can return there after the last round at your place in Hillsboro. It is not really very far out of my way back to my place in Fairview. If anyone wants to board the van prior to Rico's round they can meet me at my house if Fairview before the van leaves for Rico's. I believe we are starting at 9:00am at Rico's, so I will be leaving my house in Fairview no later than 8:30am. -------------------Bill
Rally point for the NASTE Party Van, any suggestions?
We can use Rico's track as the pick up point if that works best for everyone, or..........?
Who is interested in riding in the van to all the tracks? I can seat about 9 to 12 adults.
-------------Bill
The NASTE Forum → Posts by wb0s
Powered by PunBB, supported by Informer Technologies, Inc.