NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (Page 35 of 85)

I just don't think a $90.00 starting/entry point is conducive to getting and keeping new people involved.  Greg's and Monte's are both coupes so you are comparing apples and oranges and all the print I've seen is that they all very quick so Greg's is not an anomaly.  The Classic Sports Car class rules need some restructuring and limiting all entries to 1964 and prior would be a good start.  After that the tire and horsepower wars began transforming production based sports cars into purpose built racing machines altering racing for ever.  It's time we make some adjustments to our classes to reflect this.  I submit that we drop 18k motors from classic sports cars and limit them to 14k and 7mm tires. We could continue with the pod and non-pod divisions to help keep things compatible with the cars in use.  I further submit that we should split the GT class into Modern and shall we say Vintage divisions. The Vintage division could cover the years 1965-1990 or ? The vintage division could serve as the place where we could run the ThunderSlot's, NSR's, Al's Greenwood Vette and the like with some sort of motor limit. (18-20k?) and the Modern division still kind of a catch all for everything else.  These changes would better reflect racing history and mirror the increasing speeds achieved as time marched on,  better aligning our classes to reality without banning certain brands or individuals creations.

With 30s of Googling...

T-Slot: $60 white kit/$75 liveried

NSR: $53-$65 white kit/$60-$80 liveried

Full disclosure is that those are ebay auctions and need to add shipping, but at ~$10, that's still Slot.It money and shouldn't be any more of a barrier than any other brand for someone wanting to come out and play.  I say we throw them in the mix where appropriate.

Regarding the class restructure, I also like it and agree that we shouldn't ban any particular brands.  Your Classics proposal sounds like it aligns with IPS regs with the exception of allowing any driveline configuration (but I haven't read them in a while):

I like it with one motor and tire spec between both divisions and 14k is probably much more reasonable for cars of that era.

For the GT class, I am on board with the concept of splitting the eras:

I would advocate the split somewhere along the lines of pre- and post- ground effects adoption, possibly drawing the line at pre- and post-Grp C (1982).  Ideally, they should probably be lumped into 15yr-ish buckets ('65-'80, '81-'95, '96-present?) but I don't want to make this another F1 class...  If we're going to down motor them, I'd say we should be certain that it'd make a difference.  Based on that, I'd personally lean more toward the 18k than 20k.

I would like to find a way to get the modern LMP spyders into the GT mix (no roof though).  I have a Ninco BMW LMR and I've stared at the new Slot.It Audi R8's and keep wanting to pick one up, but we have no class in which to race them.  Would be nice to toss them in too.

The only downside I see to this restructure would be that for the Classic and Vintage GT, it seems like it's going to require a specific build- i.e. is there an RTR offering with appropriate motor and tire spec?  With Classics, you could buy a Ninco Vette or Jag and be competitive (at least you used to be able to...).  Is there anything out there which fits the bill or will anything run in these two classes need to have at least a new motor installed and possibly new wheels/tires?

The NASTE veterans are likely to not have any issue with this (I certainly don't), but new arrivals may need a bit of coaching and time in the barrel to understand the nuances of why the classes are structured as they are and why they'll need to make some changes to get a compliant class entry.

Chris

He can confirm but I believe Rico's proposal was to consider the 2 GT classes independently and run them as such.  I agree that we may have complicated things beyond what's necessary with where we went in the F1 class and I don't advocate going there with these classes either.

Results from July 27th race at Al's Rippin' Ridin' Raceway -

Trans Am
1 Mitch    66
2 Rico    65.9
3 Greg    65.6
4 Daniel    63.7
5 Al    60.8
6 Fernando    60.8
7  Burns    59.6
8 David    58.8
9 Julie    53.2

Can Am
1 Daniel    72.1
2 Al    69.8
3 Mitch    67
4 Rico    66.7
5 Burns    62.4
6 Fernando    61
7 Greg    59.3
8 Julie    56.1
9 David    52.9

GT 3
1 Rico    68.5
2 Al    66.5
3 Greg    66.4
4 Mitch    66.3
5 Daniel    65.7
6 Fernando    64.8
7 Burns    61.4
8 Julie    59.5
9 David    52.1

BRM Group C
1 Rico    76.4
2 Al    72
3 Mitch    70.3
4 David    59
5 Burns    56.9

Looks like you guys had some close racing!

Thanks Al, that was some very good racing.

In GT3 accept for Rico who was in a race all by himself, 2 thru 4 were each a tenth apart.

I got my first ever win in Trans Am, again just by one tenth.

DOC, that Ford/Porsche proxy we talked about, the cars are due in Mass. by October 1st.

New home stuff is dragging. Still no floors installed so no progress on getting settled. This sucks!

That was interesting, that is my best finish ever in GT and I was using my Stock Fly 906 Porsche with original 18K motor. I used the same car in the LeMans class but ran 3.5 fewer laps. Go figure.

Race results from 8/17/17

GT3
1 Daniel    68
2 Rico    67.2
3 Monte    65.9
4 Al    64.8
5 Mitch    64.2
6 Gary    61.6
7 David    57.4

F1
1 Daniel    67.1
2 Monte    66.1
3 Al    65.4
4 Rico    64
5 Gary    63.4
6 Mitch    59.9
7 David    52.2

BRM Group C
1 Rico    73.6
2 Al    72
3 Mitch    71.4
4 Daniel    70.4
5 Monte    69

Rippin' Ridin' Raceway Race Results for Aug. 31st

Classic Sports Car
1 Al    67.7 laps
2 Gary    66.0
3 Chris    65.9
4 Rico    64.3
5 Mitch    63.7
6 Daniel    62.1
7 Greg    61.3
8 Fernando    60.5
9 Jeff    59.9
10  Burns    57.1

Can Am
1 Chris    74.7
2 Fernando    72.4
3 Daniel    70.4
4 Al    70.4
5 Rico    67
6 Mitch    66.3
7 Greg    65.7
8 Jeff    65.5
9 Burns    62.1
10 Gary    61.8

BRM Group C
1 Rico    75
2 Chris    74.8
3 Al    71.8
4 Mitch    70.1
5 Burns    70
6 Daniel    62.2

Scalextric GT3
1 Rico    68.2
2 Chris    67.6
3 Burns    65
4 Mitch    65
5 Al    62.3

Look at those numbers for BRM, 1/10 each between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. That's some close racing on those big cars. 

I did it again, I ran more laps with my stock Fly in LeMans than I did with my Slot it 956 in GT. I may never figure that class out. However that is a smooth running Fly.

Looks like it was some really close racing last night, as usual for the NASTE group! A win for Mitch in the Trans Am race, Al in the GT3 race, and it looks like Goose was on top in the F1 class again!.........Oh, and it looks like Doc only got one second place finish, what's up with that Doc????