676

(28 replies, posted in Cars)

The other evening at Howie's while we were waiting around for the traffic to die down and waiting to see if Rico was going to be able to make it. We started discussing our options for the various classes for the upcoming season. One topic was our Classic Sports Car Class which seems to be a crowd favorite. The discussion mainly consisted of changing the motor spec to slow it down a little.

  As I was packing up cars at home to make room for the plumbing work we are having done, a couple of things occurred to me.  As we are all aware this class has gotten faster and faster over the last couple of years, as a result we have really narrowed the field to the few models that can compete at that speed.  At the same time there are a wealth of other cars that pretty much sit on a shelf as a consequence. Some of the other models like Ninco's Austin Healy, 356s, Cobra, Testarossa, ect. are great looking cars, but without heavy modifications are just out of the running. There are also all the great MRRC cars and some of the Monogram/Revell cars that would compete more at a slower speed.  There are also many of the front motored cars that can be made to run very well, just not at the speeds we've been running lately.

  While trying to pick a car for the IPS proxy last year I put a BWA motor in my Fly 250LM. the car was a joy to drive, smooth, quiet, cornered very well, then I reread the rules that called for Inline set up only.

  This brings up another point I didn't think of at the time, one of the things we discussed was eliminating the division 2 (podded chassis) and modeling the class after a proxy such as the IPS, TLOR or Pan-American mainly to encourage participation in these proxies. Later I remembered that podded chassis are allowed in these proxies and as a result these cars are running much faster lap times than in past years. So then there is the question of modifying chassis, a lot of these proxies want inline chassis, that means either modifying or eliminating some of the great sidewinder cars that are out there. At the same time at one of last years proxies there were a couple of MRRC/Monogram Sebring chassis that had been modified to fit a C130 can motor. These were a couple of the best handling cars there.

  Another thing that has become apparent in these proxies is that at 13k the FF (slimline) motors are unable to compete with the C130 can 13k motors. Some proxies have started scoring these separately. I don't know if we might to make an adjustment there or if there is even any adjustment that can be made.  However I've noticed that on my cars the new Minnow 18k and the H&R Jack Rabbit 14k motor run very close together, I think it is more a matter of torque rather than RPM.

  So it seems like there is much more discussion to be had and that's just this one class. I meant to just make a short note, because I'll never remember all these things when we are talking about them.

  Then there is our F1 class, but that's another story.

Since the "Ban" was always about price rather than performance I did a quick check. Using the GT40 or in the case of Ninco or Thunderslot, something comparable, for an example:

Slot It $60 - $130

Scalextric $50 - $150

Fly $45 - $150

Ninco Corvette, or Jag $80 - $190

NSR $75 - $100 with a couple over $200 ???

Thunderslot $90

So it appears that price alone is no longer an issue, performance is another story. I believe that Fly and Slot it cars can be made competitive, ( Sorry Scalextric, do the best that you can). I have a two Fly 906s that are capable of 7.5s at Al's and I've seen Chris pull a 7.3 with his and that's with 18K motors. I'm sure they can be tuned to run as smooth are we saw Greg run the other night, maybe not by me but I'm sure someone can.

If we are talking about lifting bans we may as well include Racer which is banned in GT class only it appears. The resin body is too heavy to really compete against the others, but they sure are pretty to watch while they are trying.

It was a very nice car, very smooth and quiet, quick too. At the same time Greenman was having a very good driving night, staying in the slot and going like the dickens. Well done Greg.

679

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

Looks good, don't forget that just under the cockpit opening in your best lettering you need to write "Downhill Bill".

680

(7 replies, posted in NASTE)

Proxies? Proxy cars? Funny you should mention that. At the moment I have I believe 9 cars involved in or committed to 5 different proxies (Can you spell JUNKIE?). You would think I would be out of cars for local races, but truth be told due to my meager building skills, when I'm building a car for any given proxy I usually build two (JUNKIE). Invariably one always seems to work better than the other. So it appears I'm on board and ready to go.

As for the proxies themselves, the things I enjoy the most are, learning, I learn more with every build. Seeing how other people put cars together, more learning. Driving the occasional car that I'll probably never own or build.

Our local racing is about every two weeks sometimes once a week and sometimes three weeks apart. Since the proxies tend to stagger around the calendar it gives you something to follow in between our own racing.

I also like supporting the proxies because there are a lot of racers out there that don't have any nearby groups to race with so a proxy is their only form of competition I spent twenty five years in Central Oregon not knowing anyone else was racing. When I thought my daughter was old enough I bought a set and set it up, but her main interest was to stop in front of the buildings so she could go in and shop. Now we have grandkids that are getting to the point of being able to keep a car in the slot, they seem to include another shopper and three extremely competitive little boys.

As far as our local racing most of the cars we already own a fit into the classes (classic sports car might need to be motored down) It would just be a matter of reorganizing the races them selves.

That's enough from me, time to go work on the garden. See I do some other things other things beside playing with toys. I wonder how I can fit an outdoor railroad into the garden.

Yes Rico, thanks for hosting, and I always enjoy the proxies.

682

(69 replies, posted in Events)

Any day that ends in a Y suits me just fine. But then, I've always been easy.

683

(69 replies, posted in Events)

Monte, you, practice?

Congratulations Chris on a hard fought and well earned first place finish. Nobody let you walk away with the series, you had to work for it.

Congratulations to Bill for putting this series together it was enjoyed by many. I can hardly wait to hear what we will run next year. Hopefully next year I won't have such a slow start.

To offset the loss of Too Bad Motorplex maybe next year we will have a couple of new tracks to spread the racing around. I have contractors coming out next week to give us an estimate on re-piping the house, this may involve losing sections of the downstairs ceiling. We'll have to complete this before we can move further on the room where the track will be. At least it's moving forward.

Al and I are tied for fifth. Mathematically we can't catch the leaders, but we can sure make  Jeff uncomfortable, so it looks like the battle is for 1st and 4th.

686

(3 replies, posted in Cars)

Looks great Monte. I assume we'll be chasing you around in GT Class? Looking forward to it.

687

(7 replies, posted in NASTE)

Thanks, Rico and Kelly for hosting. I enjoyed the food, racing , and company.

688

(4 replies, posted in Penguin Point Raceway)

Glad you found it Rico. Thanks Monte and Victoria for a fun afternoon of racing, and Victoria, that soup was wonderful.

689

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

Wow guys, those look great. Even the flyer, it looks like its, well flying.

690

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

So, you're not quite ready for the road between Timberline Lodge and Government Camp? I made that run on a Sled, Christmas day 1971. 6 miles of absolute thrills mixed with a fair bit of terror. Dad was a little miffed when he heard about it.

691

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

You weighed the lead, did you also figure the weight of the concrete and water? Cement doesn't dry, it hardens. Whatever water weight you added is still there.

692

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

Nice

Monte, the commute to your place from mine is great, country roads all the way.

So far, I'm not scheduled to return to work, so  let me know if you need help taking it apart.

695

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

I like Parkrose Hardware, they have all of the little hard to find bits and pieces.

696

(45 replies, posted in NASTE)

Ahh but Doc, you know that you may just need to tweak this a little or maybe adjust that some. The temptation is just too strong.

697

(45 replies, posted in NASTE)

I went home and as Chris was sick and asleep on the couch I snuck into the garage and worked on tires and chassis until 2am, I'm ready for a rematch, just after my nap.

698

(45 replies, posted in NASTE)

I have one ready to go, but I'm bringing the classics anyway, because I'm an addict.

699

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

I bought an old Bonanza frame when I was a kid for $25 and took the motor off of an old lawnmower that had been sitting in the basement for several years. I rode the wheels off of it for a couple of years then passed it down to a couple of younger cousins in California. When I was 15 I spent part of a summer at their place in Clear Lake. I found the bike in a shed out back with the centrifugal clutch burned up, so I hammered some pennies around the outside and made it direct drive. We spent the next few weeks running it on all of the back roads around the lake. I don't know what ever happened to it after that, but it was the best $25 I ever spent.

700

(306 replies, posted in NASTE)

Did somebody say "Motor Bike"? The Harley is all charged up with a brand new license plate sticker and waiting for sunshine.