Thanks for hosting a fun night Al.  There was lots of good, close racing all around.  Looking forward to the next one!

Chris

502

(62 replies, posted in Cars)

Sure, that'd be ideal but I'll need to scrub my calendar.  What does yours look like?

(don't tell me it has squares with numbers and days of the week on it!)

503

(62 replies, posted in Cars)

All,

A new livery 962 is now available and it's one for which I have been waiting years...  The #17 Shell from the Nurburgring:

http://www.italiaslot.com/img/1slotlandia/slotlandia_2016/foto/962_Shell_17_1.jpg

I have ordered one, along with a red motor to be legal for Odd Thurs.  It is the first new 962 I have ordered in a LONG(!!!!!) time.

Whenever it happens to arrive, I will begin setting it up and tuning it.  If anyone has their own BRM (either configuration) and wants to tune theirs while I tune mine, I would be happy to work together and help get yours set up as well.  The only downside is I have a bit of traveling coming up and things may not work out until August.

Let me know if you're interested and we can coordinate from there.

Chris

504

(24 replies, posted in Gorge Raceway)

reek455 wrote:

Why no Lancia's?

They'll probably rust to pieces before the end of the race.

It's at Al's this week, if my memory serves me correctly.  I am pretty sure I'll be showing up there at least....

What are the classes Bill?

CK

506

(9 replies, posted in NASTE)

Over 50 Al wrote:

What's the max number of participants on a team? Do you have to own one of those cars?

Monte and Tony have the BRM car covered.  If you're interested in the Scaleauto race, I can hook you up with one if needed.

Chris

507

(6 replies, posted in Too Bad Motorplex)

Just a reminder for those who have them- bring your BRM Classic (917 or 512) or your BRM GT (McLaren F1 or 911 GT1) to Too Bad starting this week.  We will see if we can fill a grid and get a race off the ground.  Plastic chassis w/pink motors, aly chassis with black motors are fine although one may be better suited to the voltage/track layout. 

For rules, let's play by the box stock rules for now (including traction magnet).  True the (stock) tires, set your guide pressure, ride height and spring tension, fluff your braids, float your body, and go racing...

See you there!

Chris

Not sure exactly where to post this, feel free to move if necessary...

Full details (what there are of them) are here:

http://www.slotcarillustrated.com/porta … post968288

Fri practice, Sat 12h Scaleauto GT race (911, Viper, Jag, Audi), Sun 6h BRM Classic race (917, 512).

As of right now, I will not be able to attend any of the weekend but last I heard, Monte is heading up the team for Sunday's BRM race.  If you're interested, please connect with him.

If someone wants to represent NASTE in Tacoma at the Scaleauto event and doesn't own a Scaleauto car, I have a reasonably competitive one which may be available to use.

Chris

509

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

While not a big fan of loaning my cars out willy-nilly, I completely agree with Mitch's point.  I'd be happy to maintain some portion of a NASTE IROC fleet, maybe evn donate a car or two towards establishing one.  I have a Ninco or two which would be an ideal start.

We also have the fleet of GT40's Bill and Goose put together to play with. 

The one thing I'm stuck on is that while wanting to encourage others to get involved, I'm not sure that it's our responsibility as NASTE regulars to ensure that those who don't have the inclination to research what classes/cars to purchase and how to tune them have a competitive ride for any given night.  I kinda feel that there should be some incentive for them to commit if they're interested- or at least contribute a nominal maintenance fee after the first X number of events?

This is assuming the Championship stays on Sundays...  I'd imagine I wouldn't want to mess with the success of Odd Thursdays.

Chris

510

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

I am good with it too Bill.

If I were to voice a preference, my *personal* preference would be to dump the qual'y and just run the chosen class/race for the night with the hardware you bring.  I would feel badly if I broke someone's pride and joy (and no doubt highly refined) class entry, and I would be equally disappointed if someone handed me back my own broken one.  I am more the fan of drive your own, break your own...

If the IROC format is intrinsic to the NASTE experience, I can respect the tradition, but I'd honestly rather set it aside.

Also, qual'y time = less racing time...

Chris

511

(6 replies, posted in Too Bad Motorplex)

stumbley wrote:

So I can include my 512 in this class?

You mean like this, Stan?

ckouba wrote:

...Bill and I were talking recently and it appears that we are migrating slowly toward a critical mass to start running the BRM classics (917's and 512's) on Odd Thursdays...


So yeah, sure!

(Actually, I just edited my original post.  I had mentioned the 917 & 512 initially but apparently deleted it)

512

(6 replies, posted in Too Bad Motorplex)

I'd be happy to get mine out too.  They are clearly not of the same era but I bet they'd probably go just as well and I'd rather see more cars out there than fewer, so sure- for now- BRM GT's are welcome as well (McLaren F1 & 911 GT1).  The more the merrier!

513

(6 replies, posted in Too Bad Motorplex)

Bill can formalize this later but I wanted to get this on the table.  Bill and I were talking recently and it appears that we are migrating slowly toward a critical mass to start running the BRM classics (917's and 512's) on Odd Thursdays.  Between the two of us, we came up with 6 or 7 of us who have them in our possession. 

The intent is not to displace any of the other classes, especially after a large number of people have taken the BRM Gp C plunge and had the class take root- so the objective isn't to put that class (or any others) aside.  The intent of this posting is to make sure those who have them start bringing them to play.  I'll let Bill figure out how to actually schedule it on any given Odd Thurs (last, first, in the middle of all the other classes...).

So, with that said, grab your shelf queen and bring it out to scuff it up.  I'm definitely IN!

Chris

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OzMnwL5KakHj6qx3prpawxQYfEsR4BzBLCNXu6anVG60YGAlIgBxXemdn_aRxyCA9-6ppDgJbbNwSjGOrVoOzqWSmU_iBJqXh_Yx5LS6d4uw14HmkTKcC7hgk9W94WhxhaEXQVDdGOB7eFSMJGFUyL9S0MmLzPHV6RnYcEcBY3kIWMQ3HEzkIBmGz_DEuTZ1bTDMUX04f8sYYW3J0SUti6Z8U-9BgQGV_g5uvlSaDiLjqJwHVJ4y2ssJ9YLpyb_KLzxdMXfly-U8Jy5c_kiGr4puhagAlWbLWLl5qZeOp4sQAxD97ps734k-1ywQmthrNhz5aKF9K2dmjKrA2iEsZwke2dxMvdAi1H5QvWq-nM0eEcuIyEXkOjXXpFNuSViJQ2KzEO19wZrVKp46y1TFofcuw6D3HCU8SK9TDg3gkMvTJCNwKIO0GkHzGmFeFslz5CWUK8RWUP0xHlu8KufkFWkKQxPP3v8_OCEfbjI-P8wtStXLxBRywfaVtlki2vT1ZWiZKEZQZtNYyHYQqfbr9IK7tWcN-3BnrRfdbjIz_DLKxrE_gZN0kq9L2p69G8vaVM56HcGb7-O_k6ztIuynkmmquq9fEPJ1=w615-h346-no

Let's play by the "box stock" BRM rules like the Gp C class and see where we go from there (stock tires, motor, wheels, etc).  Actual rules are posted somewhere on SCI if you're interested.  We will aim to fall within those as the end goal.

Pics from 5/19 at Al's.  At this point I believe we were running the Over 50 cars.  I tried to get them in frame but they are just blurs.

Mitch and Goose:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5XJSfaYDvFl7Rv9UXYPEuR8bGfq0ZgN7LlvdXYVwArTUHxQBhbsh3ObicAt84flFnEOMF9Wnji1qL-gtntKsmSvY-gIP_Bu_vyd2lP35iQnt3fF8hvubamEsLONvD5D2U0vjbNfxfQSWyvHVAfigY2Lr7W50STMp0BGttH2CzkmcznWy3nWossfO8pcjYVXP8CfLkrBc-fUDIqZ_r8e0I8Lmaewq5RiPNHBisJRzf-tWNywy-y0p05SipxbeDsSWN4Kf75SnQsgBKnGwIOvlpQfFL-RuEv8FD3fmALsg4f3onGiE6BH4vk6QsGP87_w64GPfA-O1N4vcyIVPeiYRhnzpUdVd_lcrAk3HphSrJRVN-5WLZcfiyIsgS5NhkKdznmQMrckCwqah18qWnT0qSo1dZqjW_CEBcc-wJ6qcQpPE-LS08QLpCaWTP59ZcdXJ8tj4kLRLCJirwdNrl4NSW9eCH5PXa1fWDHYMM8tJl5tilIvvXFBL1ap61GUVoZMRefhLGpa3jasE96COOEAu1bbpS_r8VRVEsJ0t7Xv5cxMoYw64zCdajhPI_W8bD4FynCmvfPpqjxswrAh_hPz-25DpLKPFhsZV=w1698-h955-no


Goose, Bill, Rico, & Al:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lONBTPb7v4bghQ7KMVAJQIanY0ihzEhWve9bV-h5j_aeqvf6kYJXQPvMlaj6LRUOZvlvL1L2fhnCMe8_z206QcBg2CUmXdFZur_mg2A-83zmmzcz9DUaz3hVzsNj8VK7yDKT56pMcLOftCRaUHxlY7dnc2nlQ0-Q3_mk0wq83Wji402cZull7FveFsO0zRc_bwJgJql6WJdIIya0AqkT0ueatjt-7jlmLezcMrcBMluVo4iYjteJS_DWOPR5_mNeIEsjQf9-8IpT8UrpapydLa_RVbkxbfybFQXxRssSPq46EYxE3DcodXourGYp1s0pYyije2QtpXFvB6CERxBKnCA4EZu-CU5rq_Px4zcdDLW_hlhQyLMPLciVcBw-CjQp1bUbV3DJKpAspndoB10J4JwVVP4hZMErurQz9n3lo3k2JPvSX5rvtOBKyoRA5-Mhc5ouOMNnTng1bJltGF3j8SvwNDvTILoQDyO3SQtLOyIg_84Y8ZadPlf4962Iz21JZ-eHtYBf-wESS_0qsiHK5Y73MrCXPovXkNJZRnl75cVxCUd8UxZUOGpZbOYbc-6i-qqM2w0xtEWdd7215gPuF_NCM5D3FcnW=w1698-h955-no


Bill, Monte, Al:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bx0VdVX2Sc7bmHeWqgvm1EhTfjTTWwN6rVWDhEsKj80IjXcMohS4jLn7BDxoTXGSeSocl8x1NLbGutyMePB5e8tGJHQak6K4QIEO6NTpFbJsW5uDWN_dPfKZf4jOsUVsALX8WjlSoWmMakzf-WyCRKV8p8pkfQrNLsIVVisYNeRr89wAsKVGEYtLb1pjz4U2mDdu7T-d0gwG5Iw4sNdaSjxBCiFrlRe6gaNjUSBNL13x045RCJYZIw7K8PTU1wPgX3j7ZxZcHDoVtkElq0rSmsaqqid6rWwzqzVCDKjUjeSoLDqV5np6fN7O7KHGLfYr3m1xliCeHl0ks9bmRKlNaeEsvabiKTwL3eCpWSP1ZQ_Onf4qygVi4DnRq7B0x0L63EMGPhbUptZCpaHe4BcfFjPadSoPmSEmQderE8G46jbaDH46WPg89OOUiesOIMG71gner9hUhfsCn9yzgYpIEaaPpNI_Na-UI9u0qxk-vk7pvgiHBgliFZfyxoWQEFY2ONqOAh6NSyk5u1drVrOcHL1FVc312AXRmLJ-Dfsq1pCcG5NjCWViH1RBatnFLq6Knx2_Ju_31N8YiD3l2O_ffwdS6xxOZyGh=w1698-h955-no

Al,

Thanks indeed for another fun night of racing!  It was nice to see everyone and swap paint again, and it's a fun track to run on.  I was quite happy to partake in the after-hours running of the Classics heats as well.  Good fun to get those cars out too!



Dan,

Glad you enjoyed it, they are great, fun cars.  If you're serious, I may be able to put together a car for something reasonable.  Let me know if you're interested and I can take a look.

Chris

516

(42 replies, posted in For Sale or Trade)

WOw!  That there website is clearly NOT Bill's handiwork!  Looks great gents, but I'm glad to see the effort went into tires which work well first and then the slick website later.

Looks great!

CK

Thanks Bill for the hospitality again and another great night of racing.  I was very happy to see the new class with so many people and their new car builds.  It seems like we created an interesting and fun way to get some shelf queens off the shelf and onto the track.  Thanks to all who contributed their feedback and input on the direction we took.

Looking forward to the next round!!

Chris

518

(42 replies, posted in For Sale or Trade)

The Fly's seem to be all over the place with their sizes.  It does seem like every marque had their specific size.  I think I have some T70 tires but will have to confirm...

Bill can work it into the Odd Thursday rotation at the most appropriate opportunity.  I would guess that it won't be the next event though.

Chris

The output files from the two rounds are online now:

Round 1 - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5ess … U2Z2xKbEVn

Round 2 - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5ess … pHaEgxN3g0

There are tabs at the bottom of the screen to navigate between sheets, click on the one you would like to look at.  I have added a sheet for car type and mods just to see who was running with what gear and tuning tricks. 

I look forward to seeing how this class develops, but I do have a minor concern. Going through the results and looking at the lap times, there were three cars with average lap times well below 10.5 seconds (an arbitrary number I chose as a target lap time).  There were 2 cars at 9.9 and one at 10.1- the next cars were at 10.5 and higher.  All cars will be allowed to play but we may institute a handicap system to accommodate the performance variance for strong motors.

I very much look forward to adding this class to our regularly scheduled rotation.

Thanks to all who provided feedback and helped get it set up.

Chris

The official rules for the Le Mans Classics Category:

Technical Specifications-

Except for the following allowances, car should be box stock.  Specifically this means-

  • Stock motor

  • Stock body and chassis (wheel wells may not be altered)

The allowances-

  • Traction magnet must be removed

  • Any rubber/urethane tires may be used

  • Tires may be glued and trued on the wheels

  • Guide and braid are free to replace/modify

  • Guide may be shimmed to appropriate depth for track

  • Grinding to fit (lead, brass, etc...) weight in is acceptable.  Grinding to remove weight is not.

  • Front stub axles may be replaced with a single, solid axle holding the stock front wheels

  • Use of metal gears is allowed provided they are the stock ratio (pitch may be different)

  • Use of metal wheels and a replacement axle & bushing is allowed.  Wheels and tires may be of similar size/aspect ratio to the stock hardware (from any vendor), or use the Slot.It replacement kits (http://www.132slotcar.us/store/index.ph … =24_94_100).

  • If wheels are replaced, the wheel itself must be appropriately detailed or period-correct inserts must be installed.

  • It is permitted to glue bearings into the chassis

  • It is permitted to glue the motor into the chassis

  • It is permitted to apply glue inside bearings to eliminate slop of oversize bearings

  • Chassis may be filed along its perimeter for float, but do not remove more than 1/16" of material.

  • Valances and other bodywork may be separated from the chassis and attached to the body provided it maintains the original profiles, features, proportions, and contours of the model.

  • BNOVA and similar guide repair components are acceptable for repairing existing cars but not as a tuning option

  • If it's not mentioned, you can't do it.

Classes-
The category will be broken into two classes- front vs rear motored and scored as such (inline counts as REAR motored; front motor has a driveshaft between the motor output and the pinion). 

Eligibility-
Any Le Mans competitors modeled by Fly Scalextric, Monogram, Revell, or Ninco which ran in the 1971 event or prior are eligible for competition.  All entries need to use the Fly/Scaley black stripe motor regardless of chassis manufacturer

Things seemed to run well with the cars we had last night and I think this is a good start for the class.  We will go forth with these as the rules baseline and if we need to adjust, then changes will be made.  I appreciate the feedback and discussions and hope this rule set will generate a fun, new way for us to run very pretty cars which have been sitting on the shelf or in boxes for way too long.

Chris

Thanks to Bill for opening up early and to those who made it out to try the new class.  As we discussed, the objective is to have a class of good-looking cars from the "Golden Era" of sports car racing (50's through 1971 to be specific) running at a slightly relaxed pace from the current Classics category for which we are permitted to do some tuning to make them fun but run them with stock motors and bodies.

Bill- Send me the file please as that will save me a whole bunch of typing.

Rico- I will post the results in this thread with who was running which car and what mods once Bill sends it.

Just a reminder, Bill's opening early today and we'll do a race with cars prepped per the regs on page 4 (http://naste.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5745#p5745).  Doors open at 3, aiming to run around 4 so we can be done and get back to the normally scheduled event for the night.

CK

Well, it was a thought...  I know they have a good looking 550, Cobra, XKE, and probably more, so I wanted to throw them in the mix as well.  If someone wanted to be creative and get one to run in the spirit of the class, then I'd be game for it.

I am honestly looking forward to trying to tune my Monogram Mustang and a Daytona coupe.  I've wanted a class in which to race those for a long time but we never had one.  Will need tires and a motor though...

How about this...  For this Thurs, we have a "run what you brung" race with all these cars we've been talking about.  What I am proposing is to tune them within the spirit and intent of the class and let's just see how they run together.  For the sake of this exercise, please don't make an irreversible modification outside of what the draft of the regulations permit.

Bill has graciously been volunteered to open the track up at 3, so perhaps a 4p event just as a trial.  I know not everyone will be able to make it but we'll run with whomever does and see how these cars all run together.

The current draft of the regs is below.  They haven't changed outside of the addition of the Revell/Monogram/Ninco option:

ckouba wrote:

Except for the following allowances, car should be box stock.  Specifically this means-

  • Stock motor

  • Stock wheel wells (may not be altered)

The allowances-

  • Traction magnet must be removed

  • Any rubber/urethane tires may be used

  • Tires may be glued and trued on the wheels

  • Guide and braid are free to replace/modify

  • Guide may be shimmed to appropriate depth for track

  • Grinding to fit (lead, brass, etc...) weight in is acceptable.  Grinding to remove weight is not.

  • Front stub axles may be replaced with a single, solid axle holding the stock front wheels

  • Swapping gears is allowed provided it is for the identical stock ratio (pitch may be different)

  • It is permitted to glue bearings into the chassis

  • It is permitted to glue the motor into the chassis

  • It is permitted to apply glue inside bearings to eliminate slop of oversize bearings

  • Chassis may be filed along its perimeter for float, but do not remove more than 1/16" of material.

  • Valances and other bodywork may be separated from the chassis and attached to the body provided it maintains the original profiles, features, proportions, and contours of the model.

  • BNOVA and similar guide repair components are acceptable for repairing existing cars but not as a tuning option

  • If it's not mentioned, you can't do it.

The class would be broken into two categories- front vs rear motored (inline counts as REAR motored; front motor has a driveshaft between the motor output and the pinion).  Any Le Mans competitors modeled by Scalextric or Fly which ran in the 1971 event or prior are eligible for competition as-is.  Any similarly-eligible Monogram, Revell, or Ninco models which meet the category criteria (550, Cobra, Daytona, T70, DB3, etc...) may be allowed with the allowance of a motor change to the black stripe Scaley/Fly unit.