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posted by wb0s:
From what I have seen on Ebay and sale or clearance items from online hobby shops, some Scalextric and SCX cars, and most Carrera cars are the least expensive to buy new. Some of the less popular cars like Fly Vipers (or Vipers of any brand for that matter), Fly Starter Series cars, and most brands of F1 cars can be purchased at reduced prices. I don't care much for the Carrera cars, they seem to require too much modification to make them perform well. I'd like to use cars that would be a good durable foundation to start on, that work well out of the box, but can be refined and improved. Cars that have performance parts readily available. I have had good results with Fly cars. Slot.It parts are readily available for Fly cars, and work in most cases without major modifications. I have some Fly Starter Series cars I am working on now. I picked up the Fly Porsche Starter cars for $17 new on Ebay.

posted by Rico:
I would agree that the Carrera cars can be bought cheap and that they are amoung the worst handling, least tunable slot cars.  I"ve heard some of the newer releases may be slightly better than some of the older ones.
I think a single make series, say Porsche 911 GT-1's or Ford GT-40's might be a fun experiment.  Ninco, Fly, Scalextric, Carrera and maybe somebody else make the Porsche's and Fly, Scalextric, Slot.it, MRRC and NSR all make GT-40's.  Another potential car would be 911 GT3's which are made by AutoArt, Ninco, ProSlot, SCX,Carrera, Scalextric, NSR and porbably a few others I'm not thinking of.  Fairly lax rules, maybe standard cans with a max RPM limit, urethane tires and see who can find a better mousetrap.

One other possibility is the Fly DP cars, lots of liveries and some slight variations in body styles coupled with being fairly cheap.

posted by wb0s:
I like the idea of the class being limited to a certain make/model of car, not manufacturer of the "slot car"/chassis. I think it would be fun and interesting to leave the rules loose to see what can be done to improve the cars handling without some much emphasis on overall speed from faster motors.

I was also thinking of ways to help make the newer racers more competitive. I was thinking of a winners list versus a racing series. Race winners would be added to the winners list with the dates and details recorded. Cars would be raced in non-magnetic traction configuration however, anyone who had not won yet won a race and are not on the "winners list" would be allowed the placement of one traction magnet on their car. After their first win they would have to remove the traction magnet. This would make it easier for new racers to participate and be competitive right off the bat. Plus it would make the racing much more challenging for the more experienced racers.

So what cars should we start with? What cars do most of us have already? What would be CHEAP to get?

posted by wb0s:
Up for consideration: a GT Class, which would include GT cars from ANY manufacturer, with the exclusion of Slot.It and NSR to help keep costs down. The rules are simple, a. cars must retain their original manufacturer's chassis, b. bodies must retain their overall stock appearance (no major cutting or trimming), c. chassis are limited to one guide flag or pin only.

A list of weekly winners will be recorded and kept. Any racer who has not scored a win will be allowed to run one traction magnet in their car. Once a racer has scored a win they must race non-magnetic traction cars only.

I heard a suggestion that we should look at keeping the class closer to an RTR type class, with limited modifications allowed to axles, gears, and easily swapped parts. Any comments?

I heard a suggestion that we should look at keeping the class closer to an RTR type class, with limited modifications allowed to axles, gears, and easily swapped parts. Any comments?

TooBad Motorplex will be participating in the Tuesday Night Races.

Let's move this topic over to the NASTE Forum as it involves more tracks than just mine.

-------------Bill

Here's is preliminary list of eligible cars for the proposed GT class. The list is open to discussion for additions or deletions. I tried to exclude cars that have a lower/wider profile similar to LMP cars.   ---------Bill

Carrera-
Porsche 935
Capri
Mercedes-Benz SLR
Ferrari 512 BB
BMW 2002
Opel GT
Opel Manta
Audi R8 GT

Fly-
Corvette C5R
Porsche 911 GT1
Marcos LM600
Porsche 911T
BMW 320
Porsche 934
BMW M3
Ford GT40
Ferrari F40
Porsche 911SC
Porsche 911S
Porsche 935
Lister Storm
BMW M1
Alfa Romeo Giulia
Ferrari 250 GTO

MB Slot-
Ferrari 430
Zonda

MRRC-
Porsche 911
Kellison
Ford GT MKIV

Ninco-
Porsche 934
Jaguar E-Type
McLaren F1 GTR
Lamborghini Murcielago
Lamborghini Diablo
Camaro
Lamborghini Gallardo
Porsche 911
Audi R8 GT3
Corvette GT3
Ford Mustang GT
Renault Megane
Ford GT
Lotus Exige

Revell-
NSU TT
BMW 320i
Cobra Daytona Coupe
Jaguar E-Type
Ferrari 250 GTO/LM

Scalextric-
Ford Mustang FR
Ford GT-R
Aston Martin DBR9
McLaren MP4-12C
Audi R8 LMS GT
Nissan GT-R
Ford GT40
Jaguar XKR GT3
Mercedes 300 SLR
Mercedes SLR
Porsche 997
Aston Martin DBS
BMW 320si
Porsche 911 GT3
Dodge Viper Coupe GS
Lamborghini Gallardo
Corvette C6R
Bugatti Veyron
Mercedes SLR McLaren
Camaro GT-R

SCX-
Aston Martin DBR9
Seat Toledo GT
Corvette C6R
BMW 320
Renault Megane
Ferrari 599 GTB
Porsche 911 GT3

I like the idea of the class being limited to a certain make/model of car, not manufacturer of the "slot car"/chassis. I think it would be fun and interesting to leave the rules loose to see what can be done to improve the cars handling without some much emphasis on overall speed from faster motors.

I was also thinking of ways to help make the newer racers more competitive. I was thinking of a winners list versus a racing series. Race winners would be added to the winners list with the dates and details recorded. Cars would be raced in non-magnetic traction configuration however, anyone who had not won yet won a race and are not on the "winners list" would be allowed the placement of one traction magnet on their car. After their first win they would have to remove the traction magnet. This would make it easier for new racers to participate and be competitive right off the bat. Plus it would make the racing much more challenging for the more experienced racers.

So what cars should we start with? What cars do most of us have already? What would be CHEAP to get?

----------------Bill

TODAY is the day!

7:30 am and I just finished cleaning and checking my track.  The Official NASTE Party Van will be leaving for Autumn Hills in an hour.  I'm ready to race!

-----------------Bill

That'll work Monte. I will start the NASTE Party Van Event Tour at Rico's in Milwaukie. I can return there after the last round at your place in Hillsboro. It is not really very far out of my way back to my place in Fairview. If anyone wants to board the van prior to Rico's round they can meet me at my house if Fairview before the van leaves for Rico's. I believe we are starting at 9:00am at Rico's, so I will be leaving my house in Fairview no later than 8:30am.   -------------------Bill

This is Victoria Saager, the NASTE Scrabble Champion for 2012, and the official recorder for the SCX Proxy here at TooBad Motorplex.

This is Rico Locati the other driver for the SCX Proxy.

Pictured on the left is the infamous Monte Saager, or to us local racers The Big Smooth. Personally I like just plain Smooth. On the right is my long time friend  Gary Gossett. Gary and I have raced slot cars together for 30 years. I met Gary through slot car collecting, and he introduced me to the PASER Club in the Portland area.

I'd like to thank everyone who was able to make it out to the open house Saturday. I had a great time, and it was good to see some racers on my track! I apologize for not updated my invitations to point out the SCX Proxy race had been added to the agenda. I hope the racers entered in the Proxy are happy with their results. I was able to snap a few photos:

This is my newly (somewhat) finished track. I have worked on this track on and off for two years to get it to this point. Now the fun can start!

Here is the field for the SCX Proxy Race.

It will live forever!!!!  Diane and I will be putting that platter out as a reminder at every event here at TooBad Motorplex!!!!

Thanks Rico, it sure has been a lot of time and work!.....................................I am sore and stiff from working underneath that thing for 3 days!!!!

I put in a good 8 hours on the track Tuesday (ok maybe there was a little playin' that took place).

Mostly what I saw during that period was from this perspective:

But the good news is all 3 lanes are functional. Today I will try to finish up the jumper wiring, and the lap counter wiring.

---------------------Bill