Odd Thursday Night - New Class Discussion March 2016 (Page 2 of 5)

Yeah but...

I've always felt compelled to have the body be the body and the chassis be the chassis.  I know Scaley is fond of doing this with their cars and figured it might be a good option if we wanted to have them competitive with Fly's (maybe). 

If this was a dictatorship, I'd allow it but it's open for discussion.  I personally think it's quite comparable to chassis clearancing- it's done to get the body to float effectively.  If we're going to do one, I think we should allow the other.  Otherwise I'd say we only grind to allow weight to fit in.

Are you not in favor Goose?

I am kind of leaning to the not so in favor at this time.

I am afraid we start allowing this type of modification we are going to start having the same possible problem as in T/A class where the modified body/chassis float may be creating run-a-way cars vs the box stock body/chassis layout. I would like to start out running the the cars with no body modifications to see how well the cars run, and then have some modified body cars to run against to see if it creates a advantage, if it does then vote on the modified body into the rules.

How about we start out the class with NO trimming of any kind? Not for adding weight, chassis clearance or anything. Then we can see how the cars run, and as Goose noted we can make changes to the class as we go?

This will all be surmised somewhere?  I need a new car.  May have to contact Tony about his new brand.

I know that the Fly and Scalextric sidewinder cars have room for weight. I don't know about the front motored cars.

Not me Goose,
I have a few front motored cars that I purchased just because I liked the looks of them, but their handling leaves something to be desired. I'll probably go with something in a sidewinder configuration. I have the hacked on Ferrari 250Lm (poor thing). I don't think I need another GT40 (sorry Chris). I'm leaning towards the blue Porsche 906, but it bugs the heck out of me to pay an extra $25 just to get something other than white.
Quick question though, we are talking about Scalextric and Fly cars that ran in Le Mans '71 and earlier, so does that include the Scalextric Corvette from that era? I know it is front motored, but I've never ran one and don't know if they are as clumsy as the rest. They look nice though.

Here's my thing about why I would still advocate grinding for fitting in weight:  I have tried tuning one or two of these by putting weight in them.  Once I did, they didn't want to button back up nicely.  All the interior pieces leave little space to put weight.  A modest amount of grinding solves that problem.  I remember thinking that it was a shame that to get them to run well, it looked like they were bulging at the seams.  If the whole intent is to make a pleasant class out of pretty- but slow- cars, I think it would behoove us to make sure they stay pretty as we make them enjoyable to drive.

I would like to leave the door open to grind to fit the weight in and that is why.  I am fine if other chassis grinding/trimming/valence relocating is off limits.

Any objections?

RE: Scaley Vette- game on Mitch!

Chris: I feel that is only fair to allow "trim for weight only". Hopefully that will put more different style cars on the track, and allow people to use a car they may already have and not feel pressured to purchase a new car. We need to do some fun/practice races with the different cars to get them dialed in under the (finished) rules and find out if there are enough people interested to continue with this being a Naste class.

I can open the doors here at TooBad early on Thursday the17th for testing.

I took my Fly 250LM to Al's . it wants to run 8.7-8.6 with the occasional 8.5. Al's scaley gt40 was running a steady 8.5-8.3. My Fly GT250 was abysmal. It wouldn't get below a 9, but tires were an issue.

That particular car has an odd size rim, the center flange is 6.5mm wide, most of my wider tires are either made for a 6.mm flange or are too low profile for the 250GTO.I ordered a couple of tires with a 7mm flange from SCC to give it another go. I'll save the stock ones for you to set into a mold.

Are Fly Classic tires available through the club(you)?  I know Paul Gage makes them but I would be curious to see how they would compare against each other.