Results from the February 13th race:


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Results from the February 13th race:


Tonight is yet another sad night. I learned today that Bob McFarland passed away yesterday. Bob was one of the nicest and most generous men I have ever known. He loved the slot car hobby more than anyone I have met. He did more for the slot racing community than anyone I have met. He was a talented innovative builder and an awesome competitor. Bob was not only a leader in the slot car racing community, he was the spirit of slot car racing in the Northwest. Our slot racing community will feel the loss, and I will miss him greatly.
Bob's obituary: https://obits.oregonlive.com/obituaries … =195568507

I believe it will be retail ordering straight from Jim Difalco.
If you order one of the Genesis network controllers you will eventually want different networks for the 1/32 cars and the 1/24 cars at Howie's. A higher overall ohm network for 1/32 cars at Al's will work at Howie's, but the overall response and sensitivity is going to be really soft for the higher current 1/24 cars.
Also if you get the DD304 you will probably want to swap out the heat sink for the larger one. If I remember correctly Zack's controller got really hot the first time he used it at Howie's. You might check with Zack for details.
Body list removed from Can Am rules.
Tom, here's my 2 cents on those controllers you listed. First off Difalcos are my favorite controllers. They're tough! I've seen problems with other controllers, especially if you accidentally hook up backwards. I've only seen one issue with a Difalco.
The Difalco DD268 is the Fanatic model. It features multiple small potentiometers, one for each of the "bands" the controller wiper makes contact with. This controller has almost infinite adjustability. The compromise with this adjustability is the need to manually adjust each potentiometer for your baseline control. Once you have your baseline set you can adjust just like the other controller models using the sensitivity "knob". It can be time consuming setting up your baseline, depending on how particular you are, and the baseline settings may be something you want to change depending on tracks or cars. With this controller a notebook for keeping notes regarding settings might be handy. I have one of these controllers you can look at and try if you'd like before making a decision and purchase.
The DD281 is the top of the line newest Genesis model. The Genesis models use an interchangeable transistor network instead of the individual potentiometers for the wiper bands for the baseline settings. The only downside to this versus the Fanatic is; to change your baseline control settings you need to change out the "network" for a different one. For our racing that would probably mean one network for 1/24, and one network for 1/32. With the Fanatic you would just change each of the 12 or 15 potentiometer settings. The DD281 also comes equipped with a traction control potentiometer and the Pro brake potentiometer. I like the traction control option, but I'm not sure the Pro brake potentiometer is really needed for the racing we do around here. The DD271 is the same controller without traction control. I also have a DD281. It is the controller of mine you've used before.
The DD270 gives you the Genesis controller without the traction control and Pro brake potentiometer (uses the economy pot.). I think one advantage of the Pro brake potentiometer is it is less likely to burn up if you hook up backwards. The DD280 is just the DD270 with traction control added.
The DD304 Stan mentions is basically the DD280 but primarily designed for 1/32 racing. It comes with a network for racing 1/32 cars whereas the 200 series Genesis controllers come with networks for 1/24 racing. I'm sure this controller would work for both 1/32 and 1/24 with a network change. My personal choice was to go with the 200 series controllers for 1/24 because I feel the components are more robust. Most 1/24 scale cars use a lot more current than the 1/32 cars which means more amperage through the circuit.
When in doubt just email Jim Difalco for his advice. He is great about responding to email questions and will be happy to build you the right controller to suit your needs!
I believe Zack's body was the BETTA and CLASSIC 1973 Porsche 917-30. www.bettaandclassic.com
My understanding is the rules for this class were made to keep the cars representative of the real racing cars, true to Northwest True Scale's mission. With that said it should be noted that just because a car is listed by make and model, depending upon the manufacturers design and interpretation of the car, it may not be suitable for or meet the intent of the class. Many of the cars listed are available in versions that are intended for serious competition with no regard from the manufacturers as to being true to scale. Case in point is the TI22. It is listed as a legal body however, there are versions of the body that have exaggerated nose angles and rear wing configurations. These designs are intended to add aerodynamic benefits to slot cars with little to no emphasis on replicating the actual car. If you adhere strictly to the rules, the only TI22 body that is legal is the True Scale body, and it is no longer available. Personally I like the more realistic bodies for this class and in my opinion I think we should update the list of legal bodies before the next racing season for these cars.
Videos from the Early Modified race on February 8, 2020
Yes we had some awesome racing at Rapid Raceway Saturday night! There were a lot of fast, good handling, new Can Am cars and Early modifieds out on the track! Thanks Howie for a great time!
Here's some video I took-
Can Am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2yuMUI05cQ
That's a pretty slick set up!


CLASSIC NASCAR HARD BODY RULES - SPRINGWATER RACEWAY
GENERAL RULES: NW TRUE SCALE SPORTSMAN
BODIES: 1/24 MONOGRAM/REVELL ONLY
GRAND PRIX 84-92
T-BIRD 81-88
OLDSMOBILE 86-92
BUICK REGAL 81-92
MONTE CARLO 84-89
CHEVY LUMINA - ALL
NO BODY MODIFICATIONS ALLOWED. BODY TO BE UNTRIMMED, EXCEPT SIDE SKIRTS AND FRONT VALANCE FOR TRACK CLEARANCE. BODY TO HAVE FRONT AND REAR WINDOWS. QUARTER WINDOWS OPTIONAL.
CHASSIS: SPORTSMAN CHASSIS RULES. INLINE WITH NO HINGED PANS. RATTLE CHASSIS ONLY. REAR TRACK TO BE 3.25 INCH MAXIMUM. FRONT TRACK TO BE 3.25 MAXIMUM. AXLE SIZE 1/8. MINIMUM GROUND CLEARANCE IS .055 FRONT AND BACK.
TIRES: REAR: .900 MINIMUM DIAMETER. FRONT – 7/8 INCH DIAMETER WITH A MINIMUM ½ INCH WIDTH FOAM TIRES. NO CONING OR NARROWING OF THE FRONT TIRES. MUST BE STOCK. COATING FRONT TIRES IS ALLOWED.
MOTORS: PROSLOT-#PS2101, PS2001 and PS2003 OR PARMA #502 SUPER 16D MOTOR ALLOWED.
SPECIAL NOTE: ONE EXTRA BODY WILL BE ALLOWED FOR SPECIAL EVENT RACES. THE BODY MUST BE THE SAME YEAR, MAKE AND MODEL. PAINT SCHEME DOES NOT HAVE TO MATCH. BODY TO BE SUBMITTED AT TECH.
This year the Fray is scheduled for March 4th through the 7th.
I plan to attend this year and have already made my hotel reservations!
For me this is a 5 day commitment. I was unable to make it last year due to inclement weather. I am even more determined to be there this year! I will be attending as a"Mooch" as I do not have any competitive equipment. Luckily for me Mike leech is assembling an awesome oregon team again this year! Thank you Mike!
This is a NATIONAL event, and as far as I know the biggest slot car event in the nation! The last time I participated there were over 100 entries! That's right, and we're not talking 25 guys entering 4 cars each. We're talking 100 actual slot car racers! It truly is an awesome event! More practice track time and race time than anyone could ever need!
If you're interested in going, or have already made plans to go, and are interested in carpooling, I have 3 extra seats in the Xterra for passengers. My plan is to head down Wednesday morning (the 4th), and return Sunday morning the 8th.
==========Bill
Uh Doc......................your point????
MRRC UPDATE:
This morning I tested all the MRRC cars I have pictured. These are all used cars out of Goose's stuff, some of them were worked over slightly, some were totally stock. All of the cars had the stock wheels. With stock tires the cars had the typically bouncing and gyrating going on. The cars that he had changed the rear tires to urethane were very smooth running. I assume he had trued them. He also had one car he slipped silicones on. It was also very smooth. This tells me some of the urethane shod cars rear tires may not have been trued.
The only other modifications I found in the cars was the addition of just a little bit of weight. The Cheetah ran exceptional smooth and it had just 1/4 oz. or so of lead just behind the guide flag. None of the cars had the body screws loosened for body float.
Power-wise at 12.75 volts on my track the cars were very smooth and easily controlled. Power delivery was very linear and controllable. I'd say not overpowered or explosive at all.
I think these cars would be suitable for the class you guys have in mind. I would recommend keeping the allowable mods to changing the rear tires to urethanes and adding lead weight. I would put a cap on the car's maximum weight to keep this modification from getting out of hand through "creativity". One or two pieces of sticky backed lead, that's it (INSIDE the chassis - on the bottom NOT allowed).
I will bring some cars to Al's for further testing. Here's my thoughts on the power issue; if the cars have too much power at 10 volts on a shorter, tighter track like Al's, there is no reason the voltage can't be turned down to achieve the desired power level for the cars. I've raced with power levels as low as 6 volts.
===========Bill
We love your input Tom! We've been doing this so long sometimes we forget what it's like to be "The New Guy"! Keep the input and feedback coming Tom!
=========Bill
Lookin' good Monte! Some of that stuff looks kinda familiar.............
Chris, I'm with ya. I'll do a little testing tomorrow just to see where these cars are at performance-wise. I do not have high expectations. I raced one of the Kellisons in Classic Sports Car Div.I for awhile. It was definitely a handful even at 10 volts!
Doc, I am OUT for any additional IROC stuff! I've done it for years and no longer have any taste for it. From a drivers standpoint it's great. From a long time track owner and promoter's standpoint, it SUCKS! You guys are on your own for IROC races.
=============Bill









I did some pokin' around in the nest today (what I have come to refer to the attic of the shop as, as in Goose Nest). I located a few of the cars Chris spoke about that use the Sebring chassis. All of the cars pictured use the exact same chassis, the Sebring. Even the chassis under the Revell/Monogram cars are stamped MRRC. At any rate this is just a small sample of the USED cars I plucked (sorry yet another Goose pun) from a tote.
Tomorrow I will do some testing with these cars to see how they run on Inslot's Checkered Flag in stock configuration. If they run OK here they should run OK anywhere!
Pending test results I would be happy to sponsor this new class of racing by making the cars available CHEAP. Like $15 CHEAP to folks intent on RACING them. But I have two stipulations.......
1. This new class would be developed primarily as an entry level class with its sole purpose to help new racers get started in NASTE's racing program. With that said modifications must be limited and simple to execute.
2. This new class will be called the Goose Cup. Goose really liked the Sebring chassis and I know he was constantly searching for a less powerful motor replacement for the chassis. There are lots of slimline test motors scattered here and there is all of his stuff. Tomorrow I'll see if there is any potential with the stock motors. I know on Al's track as well as others we can just drop the voltage to get the motor performance we desire. Just like we have done for the Over 50 class.
===========Bill

L to R: Nik Nak, Gearloose, and Stewmeat inspecting his Sportscar entry.
L & R: Nik Nak and Gearloose.
Racing action. L to R: Nik Nak, Zack, Turingjohn, Ted, and Gearloose. Forefront: Stewmeat...still in the hole....
A very rare photo of Bad Bob in the flesh! On the right is Al more well know as MEAT!
L to R: Bart, Bad Bob, and Al.
Here's a few photos I was able to snap during and before the race....
Tachometer Ted we called him last night......
An intimidating site at any track!
Zack in action.
L to R: Gearloose, Mitch, and Stewmeat in the hole.
The PASER Club held it's first race for 2020 on Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway in Vancouver. This was the second PASER race held on the track since it was moved from Aurora Oregon to Vancouver Washington. We had a very good turnout with 11 racers for the first race, which was for the NASCAR Class. The second race for the Sportscar Class was bumped up with an additional entry topping the field out at 12.
The NASCAR race consisted of two rounds of racing. Each round was made up of four 4 minute heat races. This gave each driver an actual 32 minutes of on track race time! Stewmeat and TuringJohn both experienced mechanical difficulties early and were forced to switch to backup cars. Gearloose ran an exceptionally clean race to take the win. These cars are heavy and fast! Crashes are dramatic, and damage does occur from time to time. To me this is just one more of the aspects of racing 1/24 hardbody cars that makes them appealing and exciting!
PASER NASCAR Results:
1. Gearloose 440 laps 3.945216 fastest lap in blue
2. Stewmeat 436 4.007616 blue (DQ'd - switched to backup car)
3. Turingjohn 436 3.944807 yellow (DQ'd - switched to backup car)
4. Zack 432 4.118102 blue
5. Tach. Ted 429 4.007296 blue
6. Bad Bob 428 3.897858 yellow
7, Wild Bill 419 4.054940 blue
8. Nik Nak 412 4.179445 yellow
9. Bart 376 4.499454 blue
10. Al 371 4.226575 blue
11. Mitch 267 4.827360 white
The second race was for the Sportscar Class. This race consisted of one round of racing, four 4 minute heats for a total race time of 16 minutes. Touringjohn was over his first race mechanical issues and took charge of this race early. Only 5 laps separated second pace from fifth place. It was another very close race!
Sportscar Class Results:
1. Touringjohn 232 laps 3.898347 fastest lap in yellow
2. Nik Nak 221 3.999486 yellow
3. Stewmeat 219 3.952477 blue
4. Tach Ted 217 4.007215 yellow
5. Zack 216 4.117274 blue
6. Gearloose 210 4.171638 yellow
7. Wild Bill 207 4.053884 blue
8. Al 205 4.172344 blue
9. Doc 186 4.390863 red
10. Bart 170 4.507815 blue
11. Mitch 166 4.499717 blue
12. Bad Bob 158 4.062712 blue
The attendance for this race was encouraging. I'd like to thank everyone that made it out to race at Inslot's Checkered Flag! If you have any ideas or comments that would help me improve the racing here, please send them my way! =======Bill
When you guys decide on a chassis platform that might fit this concept let me know. I will see what I have in inventory and make a list.
Any thoughts on Sebring chassis cars for beginners?
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