Jan. 6, 2025
Clarification to "Motors: Group Standard" rules.
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Jan. 6, 2025
Clarification to "Motors: Group Standard" rules.
The race at Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway in Vancouver on January 25th will be for NASCAR.
I am still fielding a lot of questions about this upcoming race, so I thought I would post this for some clarification.
The OSCAR Rules for NASCAR will be observed. The rules are actually quite simple, so let me give you an overview:
1. The chassis must be of inline motor configuration. Build it however you want, out of whatever you want, but it must have an inline motor, and have .055" minimum ground clearance.
2. None of the tires (front or rear) can be shorter than 3/4" (.750"). Tires cannot extend past body.
3. Bodies must be model car type injection molded bodies. Model years 1980 to present are elligible, 1/24th or 1/25th, and must include a driver figure.
4. Minimum body height (as measured from bottom of chassis to top of body) is 1.875".
5. ANY Super 16D motor.
- That is pretty much it! Although the written rules are more detailed, this outline covers the essencials! The complete OSCAR NASCAR Rules are listed below for those interested.
The race format will be the standard PASER or Rapid Raceway type format. There will be three rounds of racing (3 times through), each consisting of four minute heats. The racer's round robin style grid line up and rotation will be set randomly by the computer. There will NOT be any qualifying. Although the elligible cars must comply with the OSCAR rules, this is NOT an official OSCAR race.
Race entry fee is $15, which includes lunch and box plaques/plates.
OSCAR NASCAR Rules (in complete form):
Chassis:
All chassis must have beveled pans to protect track surface from gouging.
Must be a 90-degree inline configuration
Chassis may be constructed using any material.
Cars will have a minimum of .055” ground clearance.
Chassis cannot be visible or protrude past the body perimeter when viewed from above or through the drivers compartment. Visible chassis parts must be painted black or darkened as not to show.
Either oilites or ball bearings are legal for axles unless stated otherwise.
Tires:
All four tires must touch and roll on the track.
All tires will have black sidewalls
No tire will have less than ¾” diameter.
When viewed from above, tires may not extend beyond the widest part of the wheel opening, when the chassis is at its center of lateral movement.
Front wheels must not be partially hidden by the front or rear edges of the stock front wheel well. (This does not include the top of the well.)
Bodies:
Guide flags must not extend past the foremost part of the body when viewed from above.
All cars will have a painted, detailed driver to scale. Interior cockpit tray must conceal the whole chassis.
All cars will be painted. (Clearcoat does not count) and numbered in at least three places. Numbers will be at least ½” tall.
All bodies will begin races intact and complete, with no missing parts Bodies will have front and rear windows.
Replacement windows other than stock are not allowed.
Bodies may not be stretched or modified to fit the chassis.
Bodies may not have material moved unless specified in the Modification section of the class.
Open Motors:
Only Super 16D set-ups allowed.
Super 16D Arms allowed.
No Rewinding or Dewinding allowed.
No shimming magnets.
Replacement magnets allowed- no cobalt or neo magnets allowed.
Ball bearings and oilites allowed in either end of motor.
Blueprinting allowed.
No shunts.
Late Model Nascar
Scale: 1/24th-1/25th
Years: 1980 to Present
Bodies: Replica of an American made “NASCAR” sedan no ASA cars.
Drivers: Vacuformed or resin cast.
Body height: 1/24th bodies shall not be less than 1 7/8” (1.875) tall measured from ½” behind the windshield at the center of the roofline to the bottom of the chassis (air dams excluded) 1/25th excluded from this rule but must not be lowered at all.
Modifications: Bodies may be trimmed to remove part of the front spoiler and side air dams (to stock valence height for proper track clearance.
Motors: Open Super 16D.
Rico, you not only had a great car in that number 16 Ferrari, you drove an excellent race! Nice job!
Here are some more photos from the day of racing:
Rapid Raceway held the first race of 2025, and it was a barn burner!
Howie chose a double header race to start off the new year. He used a two race format with the first race for Can Am class cars, the second race was for the Porsche 962 class. Each race consisted of two rounds of four minute heat races. There were awards for first through third place in each race. In the Can Am race Bob Nakamura was clearly in control. His car was very well prepared and was clearly the fastest and best handling car in the field. The rest of us all duked it out behind Bob, and man was it a battle! It was less than ten laps between positions all the way back to seventh. If you finished in the top ten, you had a very good race!
Can Am starting grid.
Race results for Can Am:
1.....Bob N-----------------390 laps------------------4.409 fast time.
2.....Bart--------------------372-----------------------4.501
3.....Rico--------------------371-----------------------4.499
4.....Bill---------------------362-----------------------4.575
5.....Mike G-----------------357-----------------------4.641
6.....Al----------------------353------------------------4.672
7.....Tiny--------------------346------------------------4.845
8.....Howie------------------333------------------------4.594
9.....Bill E--------------------315------------------------5.128
10...Doug-------------------314------------------------4.449
11...Jordan------------------276------------------------5.010
12...Hershe------------------215------------------------4.817
The Porsche 962 race was no different as far as the competiveness. However this time Howie was able to stay ahead of Bob for the win. Howie and Bob clearly had the field covered, but form third through seventh it was again very close!
The Porsche 962 starting grid.
Porsche 962 results:
1.....Howie-------------------386-------------------------?
2.....Bob N-------------------381------------------------4.451
3.....Bart---------------------369------------------------4.763
4.....Al-----------------------366-------------------------4.847
5.....Mike G-----------------353-------------------------4.492
6.....Jordan------------------352-------------------------4.550
7.....Bill E--------------------349-------------------------4.718
8.....Tiny---------------------318-------------------------5.221
9.....Doug-------------------298-------------------------4.948
10...Hershe-----------------189-------------------------4.979
11...Bill----------------------175-------------------------4.490
I'd like to thank Hoiwe for yet again another fantastic day of racing at Rapid Raceway! As usual the pizza lunch was also very good and much appreciated! I'd also like to commend all of our new racers for some outstanding driving! They all raced very well, and aside from some mechanical issues finished well. The racing at Rapid Raceway has become so good and so close, to win you not only need a really good car, you need to have an exceptional day of driving! Congratulations to all the racers!
Thanks for the race report Rico!
Merry Christmas to all!
Thanks Howie, Merry Christmas to you and your family too!
NASTE 2025 Point Series Championship Race No.5 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway December 19, 2024
Race Results - Slot.it Polycar Classics Class:
1. Doc - 6 pts.
2. Al - 5 pts.
3. Greg - 4 pts.
4. Rico - 3 pts.
5. Doug - 2 pts.
6. Mitch - 1 pt.
Current Standings for the 2025 NASTE Point Series Championship After 5 Races:
1 Al - 28 points.
2 Daniel - 23 pts.
3 Rico - 20 pts.
4 Douglas - 13 pts.
5 Mitch - 7 pts.
6 - tie - David - 6 pts.
6 - tie - Greg - 6pts.
8 Stan - 2 pts.
9 Elliot - 1 pt.
Race results from December 19th race:
Our Team Bluegroove body order has arrived!
We are now re-stocked with Le Mans and Can Am bodies!
I reordered the best selling/most popular bodies for each class. Supplies of some bodies are extremely limited (like only singles), so don't waste time if you are in need of a body! I do not plan on placing another order for the rest of this season.
Thanks to their Black Friday sale and free shipping, we were able to keep the cost of this batch of bodies down to $12.00 each!
==========Bill
I am in!
Dec.21 '24 rule update for 4.5 Flexi NASCAR front tire width dimension.
OLD: 3/8 inch minimum width
NEW: .300 inch minimum width.
All gone..........
Turn out was really good, especially for a Thursday night race!
This Indy class is based on aluminum chassis and Lexan body kits from Pro Track. We race them with Hawk 7 motors.
Jerry Weddle debuted his new build which featured a beautiful paint job!
The pits were busy most of the evening!
Howie treated us all to an Indy Car race on Thursday December 12th. This was one of his Thursday Thunedr races and it was a good one! We had a great turn out with 13 racers participating! It was great to see Blake back racing, and we had three new guys on the track as well. Bob, Bill E., and Jordan represented the newer racers well!
Everone knows how challenging these Indy Cars are to race! With that said I was surprised at how close and fast the racing was! Over half the field was at or above the 300 laps mark, with lap times of 5.0 seconds or better! The racers that were "new guys" have now established themselves as contenders.
Results of the Thursday Thunder race held on Dec. 12, '24. 2 times through at 4-minute heats.
1.....Howie------------------353 Laps---------------4.947 Fast time
2.....Bart---------------------349--------------------4.876
3.....Al-----------------------345---------------------4.890
4.....Bill----------------------339---------------------4.935
5.....Blake-------------------325----------------------5.041
6.....Rico--------------------315----------------------4.950
7.....Gearheadbob----------304----------------------4.915
8.....Hersche----------------302----------------------5.073
9.....Tiny---------------------299---------------------5.372
10...Bill E.--------------------295---------------------5.450
11...Doug--------------------283---------------------5.419
12...Weddle It Be------------274---------------------5.718
13...Jordan-------------------262---------------------5.445
I'm with Rico!
Here's a few pictures I took at the race:
Here's Howie inspecting Herb's car during tech inspection. Yes, he passed first try!
Douglas (left) watching Rico and Jordan getting in some practice laps.
Tim (Tiny) took a break from his own newly constructed track duties to get in some racing.
The pits were busy too! Bart was telling Craig and Al that sometimes snacks help!
Dennis (left) was checking out Mike's new NASCAR build, while Mitch was checking out his phone!
Whatever Herb was doing, Douglas thought it was pretty funny!
NASTE 2025 Point Series Championship Race No.4 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway December 5, 2024
Race Results - Revoslot Class:
1. Al - 5 pts.
2. Rico - 4 pts.
3. Doug - 3 pts.
4. Greg - 2 pts.
5. David - 1 pt.
Current Standings for the 2025 NASTE Point Series Championship After 4 Races:
1 Al - 23 points.
2 - tie - Daniel - 17 pts.
2 - tie - Rico - 17 pts.
4 Douglas - 11 pts.
5 - tie - Mitch - 6 pts.
5 - tie - David - 6 pts.
7 - tie - Stan - 2 pts.
7 - tie - Greg - 2pts.
9 Elliot - 1 pt.
Race results from December 5th:
Track owners are always trying to improve their programs in an effort to provide racers with quality track and race time. From time to time I have sent out questionaires to try to get a feeling for what racers are looking for. The general response has normally been less than what I had hoped for. Attendance last night at the PASER Monday racing at Rob's Redline Raceway was low. We did however have some great casual racing as well as some bench racing. We also discussed possible changes to the Monday schedule.
We decided to change the Monday schedule to a single night race, with the doors opening early enough for those (like retirees) that can make it to the track before evening rush hour traffic. The plan is for the doors to open at 3:00 pm for practice/open track. One class will be raced starting at 6:00 pm. The format will allow for race completion by 8:00 pm depending on attendance. Most likely one round of racing with 3 or 4 minute heats (again depending upon attendance).
We have had great success with the Monday schedule in the past. I am not sure what exactly is contributing to the low turn outs. Feel free to comment here! ========Bill
Bob Nakamura has started a new Facebook page highlighting the 2NASTE chassis.
He is dedicating the page to information and tuning tips for the 2NASTE chassis as used in all the various classes we race.
Check it out here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/581713904354197
I made a visit to Tim's this morning and we finished up the wiring on his track. Tim already had it glued up so I got an opportunity to run a few laps. I must say Tim did a great job building this track! It runs out great and is a fast circuit! I'm looking forward to racing here!
As you face the track at the driver's stations, this is the left side of the layout. This is the trickier and slower portion of the course.
Here's a closer look at the more technical end of the track. That's a tight right hand hairpin at the bottom of the hill.
The right side of the track is the faster end of the course. A nice long straight leading into a left hander, then up the hill to a 180 degree banked turn. A straight out of the bank that leads into a fast series of turns and onto another straight that takes you back to the technical end.
Now it's time for us all to bug Tim for track time! Let's get this thing rubbered in!
These photos are from Rapid Raceway.
Bart Ochida's Mustang.
Jerry Weddle's Cuda.
The line up for the first heat at Rapid Raceway (left to right: Mike, Douglas, Howie, Bob).
The final race results:
There were some really nice looking cars entered in this race! Here are photos of just a few of the entries.
Mike Guthrie's number 43 Mustang.
Jerry Weddle's Cuda.
Howie's Trans Am Firebird.
This Mustang was built and prepared by Bob Nakamura for Frank Lynn.
All of the cars looked great...from either end!
The PASER Trans Am race originally scheduled for Saturday, November 23rd at the Gorge was interrupted by computer failure!! Howie, who owns Rapid Raceway, graciously offered to move the race to his track. The racers being an exceptional group of enthusiasts, loaded up and convoyed from Bob's in Troutdale to Howie's Rapid Raceway in Northeast Portland. Once everyone was settled at Rapid Raceway, the race format was reset for 1 round with 5 minute heat lengths. We ended up with a fun race and everyone had a great time. Thanks to Bob and Howie.
Here's some photos taken at The Gorge Raceway leading up to the initial start of the race.
The starting grid.
The pits were busy!
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