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I believe this lap counter was built by Hugh Ellsworth to replace his original design that was mounted to the original track timer box. I have yet to verify this as there was a period of time in the late '80s through the early '90s when I had dropped out of the racing scene. If anyone can confirm the details of this lap counter, please let me know! But to the point this is an early design of an LED lap counter.
When I first met the PASER group of guys they were racing at Lee Dundas' in Wilsonville. Lee had two tracks in the upstairs of his barn. One HUGE 3 lane wood (plywood) routed track, and one 4 lane (also routed plywood) tight road course. The 4 lane track was used for racing 1/32 Parma Womp Womp cars primarily, and the 3 lane was the track used for the 1/24 hardbody classes. The main 1/24 hardbody class they were racing when I started was the NASCAR Class. The cars featured flat brass chassis with 36D motors. Of course none of the fast guys were running "stock" 16D motors. A small detail it didn't take long to realize on the 50 some foot long straight! These motors were in this lot of chassis pieces. Even just a quick look to the experienced eye tells you those armatures are NOT stock, but obviously rewound! The possibility is very high that one or even ALL of these motors had passed me with ease!
Seeing this device as I walked up to all the stuff John had laid out really got me excited! I immediately remembered this as the track timer Hugh Ellsworth built in the mid-eighties for use on Lee Dundas' tracks. As originally built, there was a second piece that was an LED readout lap counter. It was attached to the timer section by two hinges which allowed it to swing up into position atop the timer. The hinge locations can be seen in the top of the timer's box. The latches that held the top lap counter section in place for transporting are still in place.
Hugh built many devices for the club's use, as well as building some great cars! Hugh helped me wire my first 1/24 routed track, which is now the Pelican Park track in Eugene. Hugh designed the original controller station hook-ups using copper tubing that I still use today! Hugh and I also experimented with rewinding 5 pole armatures when PASER was using 36D motors in the NASCAR class. Sadly Hugh has passed, but many of his devices and cars are still in the club's possession. He is greatly missed!
Very true Mitch, it saddens me to think about how much slot car stuff just ended up in the dump!
Originally I thought this might be a home-made magnet zapper. After conferring with my resource (Gearloose), who by the way remembers this device, and informed me that it is a de-magnetizer. It was used "back in the day" to demagnetize the "steel" magnets of the early motors used for slot cars (long before permanent ceramic magnets were used for slot car motors). The early motors used mainly for model trains, would substantially lose their magnetic field when disassembled for "tweaking" to become fast slot car motors. After this device was used to de-magnetize the reassembled motors were then remagnetized using a magnet zapper device. My source went on to tell me the magnet zapper they used was stolen.
Here is a photo example of one of the motor types that would be de-magnetized and then zapped after being rebuilt.
Today I made a trip out to Newberg to purchase some items described to me as "possibly slot car chassis." Upon arrival at John's house I was shown a box of old scratchbuilt chassis and miscellaneous pieces. He had picked these items up as scrap. Thankfully he found the Northwest True Scale Facebook Group page and reached out to see if anybody had any interest in them. We as most of you know, I am kind of a geek for this stuff.
In the pictures John initially sent me it looked like some of the chassis may have been built locally. But when I arrived John also had set out a wooden box I immediately recognized as the timer system High Ellsworth had built for Lee Dundas' tracks in Wilsonville! In addition to the original timer system there was an LED readout lap counter. The lap counter was not the original one I remember that was part of the timer system. Here's the stuff all laid out on my bench after I got it all back home:
I am IN!
Bob, counting you as the first committed racer, I will officially take the number two spot!....I am IN!
So, after all of that, here are the FINAL Results:
1st John "Turing John" 724 Laps
2nd "Captain" Kirk 714
3rd Bob "Nak Nak" 706
4th "Howie" 697
5th Bill 694
6th Bart 691
7th Al "Meat" 678
8th "Gearloose" 650
9th Rob 560
10th Douglas 523
11th Hersch 445
Some of the racers were overcome by the excitement in the air!
Final race of the 2023 Porsche 962 Championship, and what a beautiful day! April 29th and the doors were wide open to the warm air and sunshine! The race itself was close and exciting, as well as somewhat chaotic in regards to scoring......
Due to an administrative error (on MY part) in the race details on the NASTE Calendar (race start time to be exact) one racer did not arrive until the first round of racing was nearly over. Adjustments were made in the format to allow him to get all his heat races in. The scoring for Round 1 was captured on paper only (accurately!).
Round 1 Results:
John 182 laps
Kirk 178
Bob 178
Bart 175
Bill 174
Al 172
Howie 170
Gearloose 162
Rob 159
Douglas 142
Hersch 128
Round 2 Results:
Round 3 Results (Kirk had a +1 lap due to a rider):
Round 4 Results (Howie had +2 laps due to riders):
NASTE 2023 Point Series Championship Race No.13 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway April 27, 2023
Race Results - Trans Am Class:
1 Daniel 70.0 Laps - 6 points.
2 Al 68.5 - 5 pts.
3 Mitch 66.3 - 4 pts.
4 David 63.3 - 3 pts.
5 Greg 62.9 - 2 pts.
6 Rico 59.7 - 1 pt.
Current Standings for the 2023 NASTE Point Series Championship After 13 Races:
1 Daniel - 71 pts.
2 Al - 67 points.
3 Rico - 39 pts.
4 tie - Greg - 24 pts.
4 tie - David - 24 pts.
6 Mitch - 20 pts.
7 Chris Kouba - 19 pts.
8 Zack - 15 pts.
9 Bill - 14 pts.
10 Stan - 7 pts.
11 Mark - 4 pts.
12 Hersch - 2 pts.
13 tie - John G. - 1 pt.
13 tie - Elliott leonard - 1 pt.
13 tie - Josh - 1 pt.
Race results from April 27th 2023:
That was a great race Bob! Thanks!
Cool Zack! It will be great to see you back on the track, and I know Tommy will be happy to see you!
You have all heard us "old guys' Talk about the "good old days' racing with PASER and OSCAR at Lee Dundas' track in the barn in Wilsonville. Tom Street is hosting his NASCAR hardbody race at his place in Bend on Saturday May 20th. Tom Street's track in Bend is one of those iconic club tracks that MUST be experienced! It took me years to finally get out to a race at Tom's track, but once I finally got there I have not missed one since! The OSCAR races at Tom's are some of the absolute premier races to be hosted in the Pacific Northwest for hardbody slot cars. If you have not yet experienced racing at Tom's, and are new to the 1/24 hardbody scene here in Oregon/Washington, you owe it to yourself to attend one of these races! I will be attending again, leaving for Tom's on Friday to attend the Friday evening practice. I have done the Saturday turn-around, but as an older racer I now need my sleep! You younger guys have NO excuse!..........Valley racers; we may not be able to beat them on their home track, but we CAN out-number them!!!! Make your calendars,.............Saturday, MAY 20th! See you there!.....If you don't have a car...let me know.....
I'm with ya John! I know there will be retribution, but I am ready to give it my best! If nothing else maybe we can out number them!!!
Inslot's Checkered Flag in Vancouver hosted an OSCAR NASCAR race on Saturday April 15th. It was nice to see 16 racers turn out for a full day of racing. We had 5 out of town racers, 3 the Bend area, and 2 racers from the Seattle area. We had 3 new racers to the OSCAR circuit. We had 4 newly built chassis entered, built by first time chassis builders in Stuart's chassis class.
Jim "Professor Fate" Mitchell won the Racer's Choice Award for the best looking car. John "Turing John" Gill was the Top Qualifier recording a 4.85 second lap, less than .1 second off his track record. The race consisted of 4 rounds of 4 minute heat races, the standard format for OSCAR races. The only deviation from the standard format was the field was not split into A and B mains. All the racers rotated through the lanes together. In the end John Gill was the winner with "Terrible Tommy" Street following in second. Bob "Nak Nak" Nakamura held the third spot to fill out the podium.
We had Firehouse Subs for lunch, and like the first year we served them at an OSCAR race, I totally screwed up and I don't think anybody got the right sandwich! I'd like to thank my wife Diane for ordering and picking up the food, and for making brownies for the race. We had LOTS of snacks and sodas on hand, so thanks to everyone that brought them! It was a long day and I was totally spent at the end! But man, did I ever have a good time! I hope everyone had as good of a time as I did! Thanks to you all for showing up!
Race results:
1st Turing John 776 laps 4.60 fast lap
2nd Terrible Tommy 757 laps 4.66 fast lap
3rd Nak Nak 721 laps 4.98 fast lap
4th Bad Billy 714 laps 4.83 fast lap
5th Captain Kirk 711 laps 4.73 fast lap
6th Meat 711 laps n/a
7th Fly Racing 708 laps 4.93 fast lap
8th Bart Man 700 laps n/a
9th Chet 698 laps 4.99 fast lap
10th DC Dynamo 693 laps n/a
11th Tiny Tim 662 laps 5.10 fast lap
12th Professor Fate 607 laps 5.16 fast lap
13th The Stig 578 laps 4.71 fast lap
14th Squirt 569 laps n/a
15th Sammitch 554 laps 5.269 fast lap
16th Skid Mark 553 laps 5.266 fast lap
NASTE 2023 Point Series Championship Race No.12 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway April13, 2023
Race Results - Revoslot GT:
1 Daniel 78.5 Laps - 8 points.
2 Al 75.1 - 7 pts.
3 Rico 75.0 - 6 pts.
4 Mitch 73.6 - 5 pts.
5 Chris 73.0 - 4 pts.
6 David 69.3 - 3 pts.
7 Greg 68.3 - 2 pts.
8 Stan 66.9 - 1 pt.
Current Standings for the 2023 NASTE Point Series Championship After 12 Races:
1 Daniel - 65 pts.
2 Al - 62 points.
3 Rico - 38 pts.
4 Greg - 22 pts.
5 David - 21 pts.
6 Chris Kouba - 19 pts.
7 Mitch - 16 pts.
8 Zack - 15 pts.
9 Bill - 14 pts.
10 Stan - 7 pts.
11 Mark - 4 pts.
12 Hersch - 2 pts.
13 tie - John G. - 1 pt.
13 tie - Elliott leonard - 1 pt.
13 tie - Josh - 1 pt.
Results from the April 13th race:
Rico, is your handle the standard Parma handle? I have some.
Since I received very little feedback regarding the Womp Class rules, I assume there are few concerns. I have updated the Womp Rules according to how we currently race them.......more or less.......maybe a little clarification.....
Read them here: http://naste.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1084
Womp Class rules updated April 8, 2023
As indicated by recent discussions it appears to be time to revisit the PASER Womp Class rules and make some changes. Here are the rules we are currently racing under:
Stock Womp Class:
Class Goal: Keep this a budget class, limiting it to primarily STOCK 1/32 Parma Womp chassis, keeping the cars as close to OEM components as practical. Final motor spec will be determined with the goal of keeping the cars quick, with low cost motors. Some speed may be sacrificed to gain better handling and closer competition.
Must use a STOCK 1/32 Parma Womp STEEL chassis. - NO modifications. That means NO bracing, NO bending, NO added weight, etc.
Must use the stock 1/8" front axle, stock front wheels, and stock front "O" ring tires. Front wheels may be set up to rotate individually.
Minimum ground clearance of .055" at lowest point.
A final motor spec has not yet been determined. We are currently considering the Piranha 21.5K FC-130 S-Can (available through Professor Motor $7.99), and the Predator FC-130 25K S-Can (available through Slot Car Corner $7.99). I would personally rather use FK type motors, so I will check to see what is available at a low cost. It appears the Professor Motor FK 25K motor is no longer available. Until a final decision is made on a spec motor, we will allow any motor rated at 25K or less. This will also give us an opportunity to evaluate other motors. Please use motors that are READILY available to everyone!
Last night was PASER's Even Thursday Racing at Rob's Redline Raceway in Vancouver. We had 8 racers in attendance, just enough for four full lanes of racing with an adequate number turn marshals. First cars to the grid were Womp Class cars. The Womps are a handful on Rob's track, but they make for some close racing and a lot of fun! Kirk Smith and John Gill tied for first, with Kirk edging out John for the win with a better average lap time. Here's the results:
1st Kirk 158 laps 4.818 second average lap time
2nd John 158 laps 4.840 second average lap time
3rd Rob 153 laps 4.968 second average lap time
4th Daniel 153 laps 5.012 second average lap time
5th Tim 135.00 laps 5.731 second average lap time
6th Tommy 134.00 laps 5.680 second average lap time
7th Mark 118 laps 6.418 second average lap time
8th Bill 112 laps 4.530 second average lap time - DNF w/broken lead wire
After the Womp race the Flexi Class was up. In this class the new JK flexis are the weapon of choice. The performance of these cars, even unmodified, is just unbelievable! Even with lots of crashing, nerfing, bashing, and over running the corners, the top two spots broke the 200 lap mark! Here are the results:
1st Bill 208 laps 3.679 second average lap time
2nd John 205 laps 3.730 second average lap time
3rd Rob 197 laps 3.856 second average lap time
4th Kirk 192 laps 3.985 second average lap time
5th Daniel 191 laps 3.990 second average lap time
6thTim 173 laps 4.435 second average lap time
7th Tommy 163 laps 4.686 second average lap time
8th Mark 127 laps 6.010 second average lap time
Thanks Rob for providing us with a top notch racing facility and an awesome track to race on! Not to mention great coffee and cookies!
Thanks for restoring the Gallery Monte!
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