The NASTE 2016 racing season schedule is now posted on the calendar.

YES indeed!!!

Lots of fun racing today Monte, and it was great to see everybody!!!! Thanks to you and Victoria!!!

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(4 replies, posted in Team NASTE)

10-4 on 8-13

3,755

(19 replies, posted in Track)

You guys are FAST!!!

Track is looking awesome!!!!

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(53 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

YES!!!!

3,757

(5 replies, posted in For Sale or Trade)

So how much is that exactly in real American dollars????

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(53 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

It's amazing what a nice set of detailed wheels will do for a car! Looks really good Mitch!!!!

HEY, shouldn't you be over working on Al's track???!!!!!!!!!!!!

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(5 replies, posted in For Sale or Trade)

I have a FLEET of Abarths!!!!

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(32 replies, posted in NASTE)

Thanks for the link Rico!!!

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(19 replies, posted in Track)

YES, all 3!!!

When can I bring my cars over????

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(32 replies, posted in NASTE)

Just got this email message from Beau Frazier:

I'M "ALL IN" on the soap box derby idea! I've always wanted to do this since I saw the event probably 10 yrs. or more ago. Gathering with you guys to build a car would be great fun!! Running it would be totally cool. Another idea along this line , which I ran by the PASER guys years ago, with no results, was to build an electric drag car. This ties in perfectly with slot car racing. No big money cars of course. Just something to get down the 1/8th mile as a bracket racer. Anyway, I love the Derby car thing. Count me in...Beau

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(32 replies, posted in NASTE)

Sounds like RALLY to me!!!!

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(4 replies, posted in Team NASTE)

INTERESTED.....................not sure when.........................

The racing on Odd Thursday Nights seems to be getting closer with each race! Attendance has been very good even through the hot summer nights. Here's the results from the July 23rd race:

Trans Am Results:

DQ Glenn Heath 54.9 laps (Glenn broke both his elligible cars - raced his NAK-Spec Car)
1st Greg Petrolati 52.0 laps - Fastest Lap of the Race 9.938
2nd Bill Bostic 51.7
3rd  Goose Gossett 50.8
4th Bryan Dickerson 50.5
5th  Monte Saager 48.4
6th  Rico Locati 48.0
7th  Mitch Brooks 47.7
8th  Dennis Hart 47.2
9th  Al Christensen 47.0
10th Victoria Saager 42.7
11th Jim Jones 39.6
12th Dominic Locati 39.1
13th Cash Shepski 33.4

GT Class Results:

DQ Bill Bostic 58.2 laps (motor>21.5k)
DQ Greg Petrolati 58.2 (motor>21.5k)
1st Monte Saager 58.1 - 8.760 Fastest Lap of the Race
2nd Goose Gossett 55.9
3rd Dennis Hart 54.9
4th Bryan Dickerson 54.1
5th Rico Locati 53.6
6th Glenn Heath 51.5
7th Mitch Brooks 49.6
8th Victoria Saager 48.7
9th Jimmy Jones 46.2
10th Al Christensen 44.7
11th Cash Shepski 35.6
12th Dominic Locati 32.8

Over 50 Class Results:

1st Rico Locati 53.6 laps
2nd Goose Gossett 51.8 - Fastest Lap of the Race 9.551
3rd Al Christensen 50.3
4th Bill Bostic 46.6
5th Mitch Brooks 43.7
6th Bryan Dickerson 41.8
7th Dominic Locati 31.5

BRM Porshe 962 Results:

1st Rico Locati 58.0 -  8.415 fastest lap
2nd Bill Bostic 57.7 - 8.419
3rd Goose Gossett 56.2 - 8.661
4th Al Christensen 54.0 - 8.889
5th Mitch Brooks 49.5 - 9.461
6th Dominic Locati 46.8 - 9.047

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(32 replies, posted in NASTE)

This sounds like a LOT of fun to me! I am planning to go check it out with Dennis. I agree that this would be a great project for NASTE!

Here's some resourses I know our club has! We have resident race car experts; Dave Smith, John Morse, Monte Saager, Rico Locati, Greg Petrolati, Chris Kouba, Jeff Fields, and Goose Gossett. Some of these members filled the full role of one man teams as they were drivers, engineers, builders, and owners. Some of these members are still active in those roles!

=======Bill

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The Portland Adult Soap Box Derby will happen again this year on August 15th on Mt. Tabor.

I think that this might make a great club event and perhaps stimulate interest in building an entry. I see a tie in to what we all seem to enjoy doing and if nothing else, it would make a great social event. The races themselves are kind of free wheeling and wacky, but the course is challenging, fast and over a mile in length. We could get sponsors and share driving rights according to guts, effort and resources expended in the creation of an entry. A NASTE entry would be VERY cool and a hell of a lot of fun to design, build and race, not to mention put our clubs name out there in a really BIG way once a year. Thousands attend. We HAVE experts in automotive design, mechanics and racing skills. Its a natural and we could use the same car year after year
.The entry deadline for this year was in April, but I would like to organize a club "field trip" to this years event and see what, if anything, develops. If nothing else, it is a fun outing on a topic that is dear to our members hearts - racing and having fun. I would be happy to drive my 7 passenger van.

If everyone that actively participated and wanted to race got a chance to, I guarantee it would be the thrill of a lifetime !!

Their website is Portland Adult Soap Box Derby
Sincerely,

Dennis Hart

You're welcome guys! I really enjoy the Odd Thursday races! We have some great racing and an excellent group of people!

We've been busy with the garage sale, but I'll get the results posted from the race as soon as I can.

=============Bill

This is very interesting stuff guys. I like hearing about the history of the Can Am. Guess some day I should read a book! Heaven forbid!

It looks like from what I've been reading you guys have come to a mutual agreement on two major things regarding the class. 1) There should be two divisions within the class for the older type cars and the newer cars. 2) Pretty much anything goes as to the car specifics. The only problem I see in using lap times as a break out, or to designate the two class divisions would be in the case of "sandbagging". Personally I don't think that would be a problem but who knows. However with that said, if there were enough dispariety between the legal motors for the class (i.e. 18k motors for the earlier cars -vs- say 25k motors for the later cars) the lap times issue would resolve itself, and probably be a moot point. The breakout lap time could be set at a point where a perfect lap would be needed for an early car to break out, and it would be a high enough lap time that it would be easily obtainable by the later cars. Another point in regards to using lap times as a measurement, with the new lap counter/timing system we are using we have median laps times for the entire race. That might be a useful tool should you guys decide to use lap times as some sort of gauge.

I agree the Vanquish cars should be inelligible. I'm good with the Carrera cars in the mix.

===========Bill

From Greenman:

In reality it wasn't that difficult. The car specs followed the FIA Group 7 rules (more or less). As CAN AM progressed what was allowed and what wasn't sort of grew like mold. As we know Porsche just threw money at the "Bruce and Denny" problem until it went away the Porsche pulled out. By then Can Am was on its last legs.

I still think letting lap times determine who runs in what group seems to be a really equitable system. As for Carrera cars running in the group, theyre not that over large... I think it would be a great idea to enlarge the field. The old out of production MG Vanquish CAN AM cars were vastly out of scale... closer to 1/27th and shouldn't be spec.

Greg Petrolati   Lafayette, Oregon

From Goose:

I have been doing some reading in my can/am book. 1966 was the first year for "can/am" and it appears 66 & 67 were mostly small block cars. In 67 the big blocks started to show up in more cars, chev & ford engines, some 351 ford upped to 377 were used. So it appears the 2c chap never really raced in can/am, just usrrc. Do we disallow the 2c, or do we include some of the 1964/54 usrrc cars to run with the small block can/am cars? (food for thought?). So i am beginning to wonder if we should run all cars together and have racers declare their car as a "small block" per motor spec or "big block" car per motor spec to determine lap times & lap quantities for each of the two classes. This would be like the way we run our f-1 races with different class cars. Would this be a simpler way to run this class and help Bill keep track of scoring two classes? Please feel free to correct me on the above can/am info above if i am in error. We should be able to create a list of which years & car type had which engines used for racers to determine class to race in(?). Getting kind of complicated, or is it just me!

Goose

I think we all probably have something that would fit either class or division of a vintage Can Am class!

From Goose:

I am thinking in terms of when the cars went from small block cars to the Big block cars in terms higher performance & handling. A small block car class would have a specific years of cars with a max motor spec, a big block class would have it's specific years of cars with a max motor spec. The times and laps would be separate from the two classes regardless of lap times and total laps run. Scoring would be for "each class only" and not in competition with each other. A racer could run just one class, or if allowed run both classes with different cars. That way we do not have to worry about break out times, and bumping people up in class if they do not want change classes.

I hear ya' !!!!....I have that ability or affliction, whichever way you see it!!!

I like the "break out" as a designation for classes. The older cars could have a minimum break out lap time for example of say 9.0 seconds, and anything faster could or would be the newer cars? That keeps it pretty simple and opens things up a lot! We could rub both divisions together with anyone running faster than the break out in the upper division?

==========Bill