The MKI with the wheel pants in place, on the start line for its last run in the test section.
SK MKI fly by on test run.
Hawksbill Flyer fly by.
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The MKI with the wheel pants in place, on the start line for its last run in the test section.
SK MKI fly by on test run.
Hawksbill Flyer fly by.
Testing on the hill outside of Dufur.
MKII test run.
The Hawksbill Flyer test run.
Testing.
The NASTE Gravity Team assembled in front of the Stagecoach Saloon.
Some of the pictures from the photo session.
The Hawksbill Flyer in its new livery. BEAUTIFUL, excellent job Dennis Hart!
The Scuderia Kouba MI.
The Scuderia Kouba MKII with flames by Gary Howie Howard.
Approximately 8:00am, the package is loaded on July 14th.
Bigsby, the official NASTE Team Race Dog seemed disappointed that he wouldn't be making this trip!
On sight at our sponsor's Stagecoach Saloon.
NASTE Gravity Racing Team test session on Friday July 14th.....I don't even know where to start, what an incredible day!
My day started at 6:30am. Hooked up the trailer and headed for the Scuderia Kouba shop in Oregon City to pick up the cars. Once the cars were loaded we were ready to meet up with the rest of the team at The Stagecoach Saloon for some photos and breakfast. We unloaded all the cars at the Stagecoach, took some photos, re-loaded the cars, then headed in for some grub. During breakfast the owner and one of our sponsors Gary, gave each team member a Stage Coach Saloon T-shirt. After we had finished B.S.in' and eating breakfast we all loaded up and headed to the old Reynolds High School to do some push testing on the track.
At the Reynolds track we unloaded the Scuderia Kouba cars for some push testing. We tested different configurations of wood constructed starting blocks for the pushers. The starting blocks were constructed on site during the testing. We tested three different configurations of push poles. Drivers practiced our teams starting procedure, and different members practiced the pusher's role in the start. We learned a lot, and after we were all tired of pushing we loaded the SK cars back up on the trailer and headed for our next stop.
The next stop was a quick one at my place to drop off a couple cars and decide on car pools for the run to Dufur. On the way to the test hill or more accurately test HILLS, we stopped in Dufur at the deli for some lunch. The food was good but there wasn't much seating space on the side walk, but we made it work. After lunch it was on to the hills. We found a good spot about seven miles up with a good wide shoulder area to set up a pit area. At this section of the road we had a gentle downhill slope into a slightly steeper uphill slope. Total run length was about a half mile, perfect for testing. We unloaded all the cars and marked a start line. In this section of road we ran the cars down the hill from the start line, and then up the hill on the end of the run. At the end of the run we turned the cars around and ran them back downhill towards the original start line. We not quite able to roll the cars clear back to the start line, so we towed them the final few hundred feet back to the pit area.
We made a total of five test runs with the Scuderia Kouba cars, and four with the Hawksbill Flyer. Between runs we made adjustments and changes to the cars for the purpose of speed comparison to validate modifications. We learned a lot about aerodynamics on the cars, and drivers were able to practice their skills to attain the high speeds possible. After we were cooked from the sun and heat and tired we called it a day. At the end of the testing Jeff Chochon had set the top speed of the day in test section at 39.4 MPH in the MKI. Jenny Burns was close behind at 37.5 MPH in the MKII, and Rico Locati set the fast time in the Hawksbill Flyer at 33.6 MPH.
BUT.....we weren't quite dome for the day. We loaded all the cars back up and headed further up the mountain. At the point where we lasted started our testing with the Scuderia Kouba cars, we stopped and unloaded the SK cars for the final run of the day. After we unloaded and were getting ready for the run we were visited by the U.S. Forest Service. One of their Fire trucks happened to be coming by so they stopped to check and see what we were up to. When the ranger got out of the truck it was obvious he was searching for some reason to tell us we could not do whatever it was we were doing. When he found our the cars were not motorized vehicles he was struggling for obvious violations of something. He threw out the "required for special use of the road"phrase which Chris countered with "for bicycles"? At this point it was obvious he was lost for words and laws to recite, so he left us with "well don't be surprised if a law enforcement officer stops you". Afte I replied "OK, thanks for the heads up" Chris Kouba was belted into the MKI, and Jeff Chochon climbed into the MKII. After a slight push both cars headed down the mountain. Rico and I followed as chase vehicles. After Rico and I got turned around on the road and started pursuit we were so far behind the gravity cars it took over 10 minutes to catch back up to them!
At the end of the 14.6 mile downhill run, Chris had upped his top speed record to 62.s MPH!!!! We forgot to place a GPS in the MKII to record Jeff's run, but Rico said when he finally caught up to Jeff and dropped in behind him he was doing just over 60 MPH as show by the speedometer in the chase car. At the end of the run we again loaded up the SK cars and headed towards home. On the way home we met up with the Burns family in The Dalles for some dinner and a little decompression time. We arrived back at my house at midnight to unload the cars and button everything up...........What a day!!!
Results from July 13th race at Ripin' Ridin' Raceway:
Classic Sports Car
1 Al 68.3 *
2 Mitch 65.2
3 Rico 65.2
4 Daniel 63.9
5 Greg 61
6 Stan 56.8
7 Monte 55.5
8 Julie 48.6
* Al's car was a Division 12car, all other entries were Division 1
F1
1 Daniel 69.5
2 Rico 67.7
3 Al 67
4 Mitch 64.2
5 Greg 63.2
6 Monte 61.7
7 Stan 51.3
8 Julie 47.9
GT3
1 Al 68
2 Rico 66.5
3 Greg 64.6
4 Mitch 63.4
5 Stan 58.4
6 Julie 56.9
As you may know this Friday is the next test session for our gravity racer team. Here's the plan so far, all three cars will be at The Stagecoach Saloon on NE 201st and Sandy at 9:00am to 9:15am. To start the day off we will be taking pictures of the cars in front of the Stagecoach Saloon which is one of our sponsors. Everyone that is interested should show up and have breakfast as a team. After breakfast we will head out for the push testing site. We will push test at a location very near the Stagecoach (within 3 miles). After the push testing session it looks like Duffer Oregon is our preferred test site so car pooling will be available. Tomorrow (Tuesday July 11) I will be calling the TV news channels to see if they are interested in doing a story on our 2017 Portland Adult Soap Box Derby venture. I did the same last year but did not give them enough lead time to get the job done. We'll see if we have any interest this year. I feel we are an exceptional team, especially this year! Our team is fielding three cars, all of which are excellent examples of team efforts! In addition we have two veterans of American Soap Box Derby racing on our team, Dennis Hart in the 1950's, and Dick Gehrke in the 1940's. With this experience and knowledge I feel we are a formidable team! I would really like to see a strong team presence for the breakfast meeting. It will give us an opportunity to talk about the logistics of race day on Mt. Tabor as well as duties of those in the pits. There has been a lot of planning going into this year's race as well as a lot of work. My intention is for everyone to have an extremely good time with this but make no mistake, we are in it to win it!
If you have any questions shoot me a message, reply, phone, or otherwise!
That's OK MItch, I'll put you down as "hopefully"!
We have our third official volunteer! A big thanks to Beau Frazier for registering for Track Set up from 5:00 am until 2:00 pm for our #12 NASTE / Hawsbill Flyer Team!
If anyone else would also like volunteer, or if you someone who would like to be part of the Derby, I'm sure the organizers would be very appreciative of any additional volunteers we could muster up!
We still need people to help out in our pit areas also! So far my pit crew list shows Jimmy Jones, Dave Smith, John Bostic (Pusher), Greg Dunbar (Pusher), Chris Kouba (Driver), Jeff Cochan (Driver), Jenny Burns (Driver), Rico Locati (Driver), Troy Hart (Pusher), Al Christensen, Dick Gehrke, Dennis Hart (Driver - Formula 8 Class Director).
The official PDX Derby volunteers are:
Jeff Burns - #21 Portland Charter Schools / MKII Team - Morning Set Up & On Course Crowd Safety 5:00am - 2:00pm
Bill Bostic - #2 Scuderia Kouba / MKI Team - Tow Back Crew 8:00 am - 4:00pm
Beau Frazier - #12 NASTE / Hawksbill Flyer Team - Morning Set Up & On Course Crowd Safety 5:00am - 2:00pm
We could still use people to help out in our pit areas! If you're interested please let me know!
Thank you to all!
==========Bill
We still need one volunteer for the Portland Derby duties!
One more comment before I start working on packing and moving more crap which is pretty much my all consuming life now!
When it comes to the split classes, it is a nightmare from a scoring standpoint trying to keep track of who's in which class and their overall as well as divisional finish. From an administrative or record keeping standpoint I would race the classes/divisions individually. If there is no concern or interest in detailed finish results, then who cares run 'em all together.
That sounds good to me Rico. I have also thought for quite sometime that our classes need some restructuring. The classes as written were good starting points points for our group, but just like the cars we're racing our group has evolved. We still need to be mindful of those just getting started, but at the same time we need better structured rules for the more skilled racers and builders. With some thought and discussion I know both goals can be met! We need to hear from the newer racers as well! Jeff Burns posted some good points, and I know Jeff and Amy probably have some good perspective having worked their way up from new comer status. Fernando has also had some good comments.
In regards to the Thunderslot cars, there are currently no restrictions on that brand in the rules. Let me know if we need to add something.
GT Class rules updated - NSR & Racer brand ban removed.
I'm fine with lifting the ban.
I'll make the changes in the rules now.
Results from the June 29th race:
GT3
1 Daniel 67.3
2 Al 66
3 Chris 65.8
4 Jeff 65.7
5 Monte 65.7
6 Greg 65
7 Mitch 62.8
8 Amy 58.4
Can Am
1 Chris 72.3
2 Daniel 70.6
3 Al 70
4 Monte 69.5
5 Mitch 68.6
6 Amy 67.5
7 Jeff 66.4
8 Greg 64.6
BRM
1 Al 74.2
2 Chris 72.8
3 Daniel 71.2
4 Monte 71
5 Mitch 65.4
Over 50
1 Mitch 69.5
2 Al 67.5
3 Chris 64.8
4 Monte 61
I'd be happy to tune anyone's car, but I am NOT cheap!!! It is NOT the quality of the tune, it is your satisfaction that counts, and if it is SLOWER you're wanting then I AM your man!!!
That was one of our worries Mitch, the 205 bridge or worse yet I-5 bridge. But being retired we figure we will only occasionally have to come back to Oregon and we can do so outside of the terrible commute hours. Or if we by chance run into a traffic jam, we can just turn around and go home! For my Odd Thursday Night Racing I will be headed in the opposite direction as the majority of the traffic. I made that commute for a few years before I retired when I was working in Vancouver. It was a piece of cake as I took the airport exit off 205 to go home, which is the same exit I would use to go to Al's. The 205 south backup generally starts at that exit or just past it. Bad news is there probably won't be any Odd Thursday Night racers at my place. The flip side of course is that I should be able to win a few!
The car is so low I'd have to mount it on top!
Well put Jeff!
OH YEAH.....The HORN!
Well I thought I was done.............
So here's the latest update on our move:
We have found a house in Vancouver and the offer we submitted was accepted. We had the home inspection today and all went very well. We are proceeding and with any luck should be able to complete the move in August. The house is located 1 mile directly north of the Vancouver Mall. Here's five key elements in our decision to move across the river into Washington: 1. This house fits our needs and fulfills our wants almost perfectly. 2. This house is almost 1,000 square feet smaller, one level, and is not costing us more than our current house is worth. 3. The property taxes are $2,500 per year less than our current taxes. 4. There is room on the lot to build a medium sized shop (roughly double car garage size). 5. This house is $100K LESS than anything else comparable that we have looked at (YES $1 times ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND)! And then of course there is the fact that I HATE Multnomah County, almost as much as I HATE PORTLAND!!!
So there you have it. Sorry if you are disappointed in me. I tried my best to remain an Oregonian, but it just did not make sense.
Me and my junk are headin' north!
========Bill
I may take them off for the PDX Derby. Depends on how much they slow the car down in testing!!! They're mostly for the mountain roads!
If it don't make it faster it ain't gonna be on it!!!...........I KNOW the flames are gonna make it MUCH FASTER!!!!
I know Mitch has used one with excellent results!
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