NASTE Odd Thursday Night Classes - Updates & Revisions CLOSED 1/11/18 (Page 1 of 2)

Well all well this could get messy Jim.

Al, I've never thought there could be too many classes. Just because we have a lot of classes designated and detailed out with specific rules, it doesn't mean we have to actively race them. If you look at the NASTE rules you can find classes we have not actively raced for years, such as the NASTE Modifieds and the early Flexi type classes. The nice thing is the rules are detailed for those classes so they could be raced whenever the desire is there.

So would it be a better option to just create new classes to cover the newer modifications and better cars presently being raced?

UPDATE - with 4 cents in this is what I've got:

- Separate class for NSR & Thunderslot cars.

- In the GT & F1 classes the cars should be grouped and raced by body type/car configuration era. (I like this idea, but how do you address the differences in manufacturers chassis & motor performance?)

- Trans Am Class left as is.

- Classic Sports Car Division I & II left as is.

At this point in regards to the first two groups of car types, I would suggest new classes starting from a clean sheet.

some reading for the f1 history
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/retr … ra-873918/

Bill...

As I have seen the Policar F1 cars are running basically stock.  Anyone running a different brand that keeps up is not running stock.  They've either bumped up the motor, added weight or both and perhaps more.

I think the Policar F1, Thunderslot, and NSR all deserve their own class.  They are not to the point of overly expensive any longer and if we want to get to where we are running similar competitive cars unlike the wild west style GT and F1 classes then we need to probably look at classes by type AND manufacturer.

We've done this long enough that the best and LEAST EXPENSIVE racing really is similar class cars from the same manufacturer.

This doesn't mean we couldn't have our other classes as well but it wouldn't be unreasonable to have a few stock classes and run one of them each time.  It would certainly be easier on the new folks we hope to attract.

To that end we should add a DTM class using the Carrera DTM's.  Here's my proposed rules:

Carrera DTM

Stock with the following allowances:

1.  Rear Tires - BOSA (!) - glued/trued ok
2.  Traction magnets removed
3.  Braid can be changed/restrung
4.  Digital models can remove the light boards and digital chip *
5.  Weight can be added but you may not need to

* You don't have to buy a digital version.  But, if you do, either save the parts or sell/trade them to me.

The cars retail for under $40 and there are significant liveries so that we all aren't racing the same car.

The easy route is to go with Slot.It for the GT cars and probably Policar for the F1 class only because we can probably count on more cars going forward and parts availability for anything that breaks.

Not the only route, just the easiest.

We could also use a class more in line with the N-N-N-Ninco Classics.  Or inline as they are.

Here's the rules:

Ninco Classics

Stock Ninco Classic with the following allowances:

1.  Rear Tires - BOSA (!) - glued/trued ok
2.  No traction magnets
3.  Weight can be added inside the car
4.  Bushings can be glued
5.  NC-1 or similar motor

Sub-class allows for similar cars from other mfg/scratch-build with similar motor.

In regards to the Slot.it GT and Policar F1 classes, do you or anyone have an idea for era or years raced?

What about a spec motor instead of the NC-1 or equivalent for the "classics"? I was thinking any brand name, plastic, one piece solid flat chassis (no articulating or floating components) would be similar in performance as long as the motor and rear tire width were spec'd out?

Sure, why not and maybe a neon sighn to show the correct driveway.
raise you 25 and call
In regards to the Slot.it GT and Policar F1 classes
1 GT class would be one we run already and that is group c with same rules we run at Mont's
2 GT would be any gt SEDAN style car that raced 1990 and up. 21k max motor no lmp sytle cars
3 gt would be lmp 21k max motor
Policar f1  is the class
Sure wish more peeps would ring in on these here discussion we be having.

Chime in Doc? Really?
First off this is great, I haven't seen a thread this active on this site since...forever.

As for Motors in any class  for the tracks we have we don't need anything more that 21.5K, $7.99 Piranha, keep it cheap, I mean affordable. 

Classic sports cars class 1&2, love them don't change a thing. Accept...

I wouldn't start a "Ninco" class I would take classic one and lower the motor RPM. I wouldn't set the NC1 or the BWA as spec as they are both out of production and basically a dead end. I would set a 14K limit which would include the H&R Jackrabbit motor which at $10.00 is the best bang for the buck in that area. There is a new company out there marketing a 16K motor but I don't have any idea how consistent they run or what RPM they actually turn. I've checked all of my H&R are motors with my tach and while slower than the Black stripe they all run very close to their rating.
By doing this it could include classic SCX cars some Fly Classics and some low budget scratch builds based on cheap, make that affordable PCS chassis.

GT class, there is nothing wrong here, If Rico wants to lap my souped up 962 with his soccer mom 4 door grocery getter BMW that's fine, it just gives me something to do till 1am when I get home from a good ass whoopin. Like working on my 4 door BMW grocery getter that is just slower than his.

Policar F1, they are fast and handle very well, but if the Polycar drivers are having a bad night I have a Scaley with a stock motor that can get around them, if that doesn't work I also have a Polycar of my own, so watch your mirrors.

Now we get to NSR and Thunderslot. My only experience with NSR is watching Rico take some very nice laps around Bills track with his.  After driving Chris's Thunderslot I bought one, well actually two.  These cars are something else. I do think that most of their magic lies in their rear wheels.  I bought some Slot It "air ride" wheels for my Slot It GT40 and while I haven't had it at Al's, it has run some very fast laps at my house.  I also have my Monogram bodied T70 on my Slot It chassis that is almost as fast as my Thunderslot.  I have extra Thunderslot wheels and tires I'm going to install which might put them on the same footing.  So whether or not these get a class of their own I'm more interested in building something to compete against them.

Carrera DTM? If we make a class, what am I going to enter in the next proxy? I'm not buying another one. Who am I kidding, sure I would. But if you want a DTM class let's not limit it to Carrera, let's open it up to any DTM cars.

That leaves us with Rally. I have an interior with two drivers already painted just waiting for somebody to spec out a car so I can give them a ride.

That's my 2 cents worth, well maybe 3 cents due to inflation or the Bourbon.

I think it's the bourbon !!

I'm with Al.  LOL

The policar were 70 era