NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (Page 4 of 82)

Thanks Dorothy, great pictures as usual!!!!

This morning I reviewed the Odd Thursday Night Winner's List. It is obvious by the number of laps the current winners are posting, the competition has somewhat levelled out. Therefore I have lifted all handicaps attached to previous winners. So, previous winners be aware, there are racers gunning for you! The gauntlet has been raised!.............

"Flying Bryan", let me introduce you to "Wingman"..........."Flyin'", I think we may have something for you!

-----------------------------Bill

Are we just running the Porsche 956/962's or are other bodies legal too?

Technically, the only bodies legal for the BRM series are the BRM 962 and the Toyota 88C.  The forthcoming Sauber Mercedes C9 will be eligible as well, although it will need to run a red motor to keep things even.

That said, I would not be averse to someone swapping a different body onto an otherwise completely stock BRM roller chassis providing it meets all the other criteria (dimensions, weights, etc...).  In other words, no  underweight body without an interior built to have an advantage over the stock BRM.  This eliminates altering the wheelbase and/or guide lead length, etc... regardless of the wheelbase of the car chosen to model.  The 956 fits well on the Toyota chassis but the wheelbase is off on the 962.  The Jag XJR series go well on the 962 chassis with trimming of the venturi areas.

A word of caution with the model bodies though- with the exception of the Tamiya 962, generally speaking, all the others are significantly thinner, lighter, and less durable than the BRM bodies.  Running them at Too Bad may be hazardous to their existence.  It also means that ballast will likely be needed to attain min weight.

The intent of BRM is to provide gorgeous, scale appearing cars for racing.  My intent with sticking as close as practically possible to the Challenge rules is to have box stock cars (with the exception of gears) and make this a driver's contest without continuously escalating tuning wars.  If we stick within that objective, I'd let it ride.

But I'd also reserve my ability to change my mind.  Anyone who picks up a box stock car should be able to win with the right combination of driving and luck.  If body swapping and associated modifications impede that, it'd need to be controlled.

Clear as mud?

Chris

I've thought more and more about this lately.  The goal of the BRM Challenge is to have box stock cars be competitive in a scale racing format (accurate shapes, "scale-ish" speeds) and I support that.  If someone wants to take a Group C or IMSA GTP model body and adapt it to either chassis (Porsche or Toyota), at this point I would say I encourage it, as long as it remains in the spirit of the Challenge rules.

The only restrictions:
no alterations to the hardpoints of the chassis (wheelbase, guide location, axle carriers), i.e. no structural alteration of the chassis
the car must meet all the other Challenge rules
the body must provide no competitive advantage.

Bring on the Jag's, Merc's, Mazdas, Nissans...

Chris

Almost forgot!

Thank you Dorothy for the birthday candy!!!!   --------------Bill

Thanks Rico, me too!

It was a fun night!We had nine entries in both classes, and Glenn Heath stopped by to visit. It was great to see Glenn and have a chance to talk with him. We started the night of racing with the Classic Sports Car Class. Greg Petrolati (Grrenman) raced to the win with his beautiful scratchbuilt Scarab. I think he may be getting a traction advantage from the drool I leave on the track everytime he brings that thing out! The racing was very close, only three laps separated first from sixth. Second up was the GT class and the racing was just as close, well except for Rico kicking our butts by two and a half laps with his Slot.It Ferrari F40! Behind Rico's dust there were only five laps between second and eigth. After the Classic Sports Car and GT Class races the 1/24 BRM Porsches hit the track. We now have five racers with the fine BRM cars, three of which were still around after the 1/32 races were over. Chris Kouba has generously provided TooBad Motorplex with enough BRM Porsche to enable us to run an IROC race for the BRM cars at the tail end of the evening's activities. Last night ended up just being a test session with the BRMs, and some fun racing. It still amazes me how well these BRM cars perform on the TooBad track, and how much FUN they are! So, the 1/24 BRM Porsche Class will officially be on the menu at the next Odd Thursday Night Race. For the racers that do not have one of these cars (yet - we hope) there will be loaner cars available! These cars are just a BLAST to race, so plan on sticking around next race!

The race results:

Classic Sports Car Class:

1st Greg Petrolati 47.3 laps
2nd Gary Goose Gossett 46.8
3rd Rico Locati 46.4
4th Tracy Flood 45.6
5th Bill Bostic 45.3
6th Bryan Dickerson 44.1
7th Monte Saager 40.6
8th Tie Jimmy Jones 39.4
8th Tie Mitch Brooks 39.4

GT Class:

1st Rico Locati 55.0 laps
2nd Tie Tracy Flood 52.7
2nd Tie Bill Bostic 52.7
4th Gary Goose Gossett 52.2
5th Jimmy Jones 50.448
6th Greg Petrolati 50.1
7th Mitch Brooks 47.8
8th Bryan Dickerson 47.7
9th Monte Saager 46.2

1/24 BRM Porsche 962:

1st EVERYBODY!!!

Last night's racing was really a lot of fun and records fell! We welcomed a new racer last night. John Fisher adapted to the track quickly, and was fast right out of the gate. Rico brought out his scratchbuilt Ferrari GTO for the Classic Sports Car Class. Rico won that class but only by a slim margine this time, 3/10ths of a lap. In the GT Class Goose Gossett took the win and set a new race record with 59.8 laps. Goose's record beat Bryan Trachsel's old record by 8/10ths of a lap. - Bryan, dust off those cars and get back out here to defend! - The BRM Porsche Class race, the thing that comes to mind about racing these cars here at TooBad is WILD! Racing these cars is always exciting with very close competition and lots of fender rubbing!.....OK, make that fender BASHING!!! Goose Gossett set the official track lap time record with a 1/24 BRM Porsche at 8.563 seconds. However, Rico Locati unofficially lowered that time to 8.408 seconds, and then Chris Kouba lowered it further to a 8.347 second lap. It amazes me how well the 1/24 BRM cars work here at TooBad!

Here's the race results:

Classic Sports Car Class:

1st Rico Locati 49.3 laps
2nd Goose Gossett 49.0
3rd Chris Kouba 48.8
4th Tracy Flood 45.8
5th Mitch Brooks 43.8
6th Bill Bostic 43.6
7th Monte Saager 41.3
8th John Fisher 39.5
9th Glenn Heath 38.4

GT Class:

1st Goose Gossett 59.8 laps
2nd Chris Kouba 58.9
3rd Rico Locati 53.7
4th tie Glenn Heath 52.0
4th tie Tracy Flood 52.0
6th Bill Bostic 51.9
7th Mitch Brooks 51.0
8th John Fisher 47.7
9th Monte SCX Saager 47.305 - +.005 laps for working tail lights.......

BRM Porsche 962:

1st Bill Bostic 59.2 laps - yes, I finally won one on my own track!
2nd Goose Gossett 59.0
3rd Chris Kouba 57.5
4th Rico Locati 56.8
5th Tracy Flood 54.1
6th Mitch Brooks 51.1
7th Glenn Heath 51.0
8th Bryan Dickerson 50.5
9th John Fisher 50.4

Indeed Bill, thanks for a great night of racing.  It was too long since I last raced at Too Bad and I knew how much I missed it.  Good times all around!

It's excellent to see the BRM's getting some track time.  Tracy's new Leyton House car looked fantastic and shiny, although with the close running, it shouldn't take too long to change that.  People do seem to enjoy going side by side with them and they do offer fantastic racing in the configuration we've chosen.  I am glad to be a part of it.

Looks like I need to get my work done at home so I can squeeze a little more out of my entries.  Goose certainly raised the bar this week with his GT40- what a smooth, planted runner!  Excellent motivation...

Looking forward to next week as a warm-up for the Tacoma weekend!

Chris

April 3rd, Odd Thursday Night Racing - The competition is heating up at TooBad Motorplex on odd Thursday nights! We had twelve racers in attendance, and we saw one new race record set. Chris Kouba returned this week with a new car to replace his Classic Sports Car race winning, record setting Slot.It Ford GT40. Chris' new scratchbuilt Ford GT40 not only won the race, it set a new race record beating his old record by 1/10th of a lap! In the GT Class, Gary Goose Gossett blew the field away with his Slot.It Jaguar XJR12. Gary ran this car with an inline motor set up, and it was tuned to perfection! Gary then came back for a win in the 1/24 BRM Porsche 962 class with another win that was just 1/10th of a lap shy of the class record! It was an outstanding night of close racing!

Here's the race results:

Classic Sports Car Class:

1st Chris Kouba 53.4 laps
2nd Goose Gossett 51.1
3rd Greg Petrolati 51.0
4th Tracy Flood 49.2
5th Bill Bostic 47.8
6th Mitch Brooks 46.2
7th Glenn Heath 46.0
8th Howie Howard 45.6
9th Russell Flood 44.2
10th Thomas Flood 39.4
11th Todd Flood 34.3

GT Class:

1st Goose Gossett 60.7 laps
2nd Chris kouba 59.6
3rd Bill Bostic 58.1
4th - tie Russell flood 55.9 
4th - ties Tracy Flood 55.9
6th Glenn Heath 54.9
7th Howie Howard 54.1
8th John Fisher 52.7
9th Mitch Brooks 49.1
10th Greg Petrolati 48.5
11th Thomas Flood 44.4
12th Todd Flood 41.4

BRM Porsche 962:

1st Goose Gossett 61.3 laps
2nd Bill Bostic 60.9
3rd Tracy Flood 58.9
4th Chris Kouba 58.4
5th Glenn Heath 57.0
6th Russell Flood 56.8
7th John Fisher 56.6
8th Howie Howard 54.2

Thanks again Bill for a pleasant evening.