Well......obviously I am confused...............
2,202 June 22, 2018 6:33 am
Re: Saturday Series Tire Cleaning (13 replies, posted in NASTE)
I'm glad your open track day went well and everyone had a good time, but Terry you send mixed messages. When you talk about the "grown men whine and pout and act childish when their car doesn't work well or they get nerfed or the corner marshall isn't fast enough" we can only assume you are talking about something you witness when racing at the venues you declare you no longer race at because you don't like it. At the same time you comment about "racers" that take it too serious but now you say "IROC is "serious" and real competition". I really don't understand exactly what you're trying to say. I've seen you during a race and I can see you are trying hard to win and you take it just as serious as anybody else on the track. When you say the only races where the cars are truly equal is in the IROC races I must say you are wrong. The cars are not equal there, the only difference is all the drivers use the same cars. For some racers trying to make their cars better for the next race is part of the fun. It's true that some cars are better in some races, but if you look at the results of the races at Rippin' Ridin' Raceway and at Rapid Raceway you would see that the margins of victory are just as close or even closer than those of the NASTE IROC races. For me it would just be nice to see you quit beatin' your drum about fairness, who's cheating, and what your version of slot car racing fun is. We all have our own version and our own ways of having fun in this hobby. You race and play with slot cars however you want but you should let other racers do the same. And don't kid yourself Terry, the best drivers emerge at ALL the races.
2,203 June 21, 2018 9:46 pm
Re: Saturday Series Tire Cleaning (13 replies, posted in NASTE)
OK enough is enough! I'm not trying to cause trouble here, but I have heard enough of this. I race at the Odd Thursday Night races and I resent the inference that the Thursday night races are not fun and it's just "grown men whine and pout and act childish when their car doesn't work well or they get nerfed or the corner marshall isn't fast enough". That statement is not fair and does not reflect the activities of the Thursday Night races. There are approximately 20 racers involved with the racing going on Thursday Nights and I am sure everyone of them would disagree with that opinion. A higher level of competition and car construction IS fun for many slot car enthusiasts and NASTE has always promoted and encouraged all types of involvement in the hobby. I myself might lose interest in one type of activity in the hobby for awhile and move to another type but I always have fun, and I surely do not berate other groups or individuals for how they enjoy the hobby. Some racers do take it more seriously than others but like you said if that bothers you just don't race at those venues. Just because they enjoy building and tinkering with their cars and enjoy a little more serious competition doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. Actual RACING is like that whether it is toy cars or real cars! The other side of that coin is some people just really don't care at all, or at least say they don't, which if you think about that it's fine but; why even have a "race"? If that is seriously your interest just put cars on the track and run them around without a lap counter or timer. And if that is truly the desired format, why score points and have a champion at all? If you are in a "race" where half the field doesn't care and isn't even trying, what the hell are you winning anyway? When I first started promoting and holding races, at the end of the session I would mail out questionnaires to gauge interest and see how people felt about how the season was run. I would use that feedback to plan for the next season. Up until a few years ago I would do the same with NASTE but in an open verbal format at the year's end meetings. It got to the point where people did not even have enough interest to participate in any discussions concerning the next season. It might be interesting to use a questionnaire before planning next season's IROC series just to see where everyone stands. One thing I can tell you for sure is the Odd Thursday Night group has already provided me with plenty of feedback which includes some rules updates and the introduction of some new classes. Sure sounds like they're having fun to me?
2,204 June 21, 2018 9:08 am
Re: Saturday Series Tire Cleaning (13 replies, posted in NASTE)
But seriously....Good call Monte, I agree!
2,205 June 21, 2018 9:08 am
Re: Saturday Series Tire Cleaning (13 replies, posted in NASTE)
Hey wait a minute....NOBODY is going to castrate me!
2,206 June 19, 2018 8:14 pm
Re: 2018 Portland Adult Soapbox Derby (45 replies, posted in NASTE)
That would be great Mitch! I know I will need some help getting the cars off of the trailer!
Thank you very much! See you at 8:30am!
======Bill
2,207 June 19, 2018 1:07 pm
Re: 2018 Portland Adult Soapbox Derby (45 replies, posted in NASTE)
Just got the timeline for the BBQ on Saturday. We need to have the cars unloaded and set up by 9:30am. I am planning to arrive at the event at 8:30am. Our sponsor is setting up a canopy for our use. The event runs from 10:00am until 4:00pm. I could still use some help unloading and reloading the cars on the trailer. Any help would be appreciated even if you can only make it for a little while in the morning for set up or a little while around 4:00pm to reload the cars. ======Bill Bostic
2,208 June 18, 2018 5:36 pm
Re: 2018 Portland Adult Soapbox Derby (45 replies, posted in NASTE)
Hello All,
The date for this year's PDX Adult Soapbox Derby is rapidly approaching. Chris has been hard at work on the NEW MKV while I have been doing absolutely nothing to help. That aside, one of our sponsors (Parkrose Hardware) has asked if we could possibly have one of our cars at their annual BBQ. I just found out today that their BBQ is this Saturday June 23rd. I know it is really short notice, but I could use some help delivering our cars to their site in NE Portland. After talking with Chris the plan is for me to head out to Chris' tomorrow morning and get the cars re-assembled to a point they are somewhat "show" worthy as far as representing a functional gravity car. Chris and I can load two of the cars on my trailer, but I will definitely need help unloading and re-loading the cars at Saturday's event. Any help any of you could provide would be greatly appreciated! I'm hopin' we might even be able to ingest a little BBQ for our trouble? Please let me know if you are interested in helping out!
Thanks in advance!
========Bill
2,209 June 15, 2018 4:02 pm
Re: NASTE Race #7 at Howie's (11 replies, posted in NASTE)
Testing before hand is a good idea. I have seen on my old track how varying weather conditions (temp & humidity) can affect available grip on a track, especially when using hard rubber or urethane tires. Using the natural rubber tires and some traction compound on the track surface as is the routine at Rapid Raceway, the effects of those variables would be lessened.
2,210 June 15, 2018 3:24 pm
Re: NASTE Race #7 at Howie's (11 replies, posted in NASTE)
We had a problem with racing the '55 Chevy's when the track was "tacked up" with traction compound. The front tires on the '55's would pick up the traction compound once the tires got hot. This caused the cars to bounce and vibrate and actually de-slot even on the straights. After that race we started the process of cleaning the track off completely before a NASTE race where the '55's were going to be raced. This was not a perfect solution because the hard rubber tires on the '55's provided very little traction on the bare track. I think the best solution would be to build up a set of IROC cars just for racing at Howie's. I would build the cars using Flexi type chassis powered by H&R motors. I would use Team Bluegroove bodies because of their durability, and run the natural rubber tires typical of what the Rapid Raceway racers use. The only down side is the tires would have to be replaced at each race as they will probably not last between races. The tire's shelf life is somewhat short, but can be extended by storage in a freezer, which is something that could be experimented with. With this setup the condition of the track could be commensurate to the normal races held at Rapid Raceway for the True Scale racers. No additional track preparation would be required.
2,211 June 14, 2018 1:52 pm
Re: NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship (127 replies, posted in NASTE)
Congrats to Al for winning the 2018 NASTE Point Series Championship!
Chris, I'll be needin' to pick up that trophy plaque for engraving!
2,212 June 14, 2018 1:51 pm
Re: NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship (127 replies, posted in NASTE)
Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.16 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway - FINAL RACE of 2018 Season
Le Mans Class :
1 Monte 70.6 Laps - 10 points
2 Rico 70.1 - 9 pts.
3 Al 69.9 - 8 pts.
4 Gary 69.2 - 7 pts.
5 Jeff 68.5 - 6 pts.
6 Mitch 67.7 - 5 pts.
7 Greg 65.7 - 4 pts.
8 Victoria 58.1 - 3 pts.
9 Terry Redeau 55.7 - 2 pts.
10 Jake 53.6 - 1 pt.
FINAL Standings for the 2018 NASTE Point Series Championship After 16 Races
1st Al 120 pts.
2nd Daniel 103 Points
3rd Mitch 87 pts.
4th Rico 80 pts.
5th Chris K. 73 pts.
6th Jeff Fields 57 pts.
7th Gary 55 pts.
8th Greg 47 pts.
9th Fernando 36 pts.
10th Monte 34 pts.
11th Stan 32 pts.
12th Terry Redeau 19 pts.
13th Jeff Burns 17 pts.
14th Jake 15 pts.
15th Chris Hammett 14 pts.
16th Victoria 7 pts. - Best Finish = 7th
17th Amy 7 pts.
18th Bill 6 pts. - Best Finish = 8th
19th David 6 pts.
20th - tie Vinny 1 pt. - Best Finish = 9th
20th - tie Jimmy 1 pt. - Best Finish = 9th
22nd Nicki 1 pt.
2,213 June 14, 2018 1:19 pm
Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (2,139 replies, posted in NASTE)
Race results from June 7th at Rippin' Ridin' Raceway:
F1
1 Gary 68.3 Laps
2 Al 67.9
3 Jeff 66.8
4 Amy 66.6 - Best Lap 7.268 sec.
5 Mitch 66.6
6 Rico 64.0
7 Monte 63.2
8 Terry Redeau 62.9
9 Greg 59.6
10 Victoria 53.9
11 Jake 48.2
Le Mans - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.16 - Final Point Race for 2018 Season
1 Monte 70.6 Laps - 10 points
2 Rico 70.1 - 9 pts.
3 Al 69.9 - 8 pts.
4 Gary 69.2 - 7 pts.
5 Jeff 68.5 - 6 pts.
6 Mitch 67.7 - 5 pts.
7 Greg 65.7 - 4 pts.
8 Victoria 58.1 - 3 pts.
9 Terry Redeau 55.7 - 2 pts.
10 Jake 53.6 - 1 pt.
2,214 June 14, 2018 1:03 pm
Re: Rule Changes for 2019 Racing Season (36 replies, posted in NASTE)
This issue was brought to my attention and I thought I would post it for comment.
In classic sports car divison 1, you have a motor spec of "H&R" 14k which is a fc130 style motor. Some of the cars you specified for this class is the MRRC cars, they use a "ff050" style motor, i do not know of motor adapter to go from ff050 to fc130 motor, nor do i believe a fc130 will fit under a MRRC body designed to use the ff050 motor/chassis layout. The only ff050 18k motor i have found for replacement is the "M/T-SL-1 13,465k motor.
Any comments, concerns, or ideas?
2,215 June 14, 2018 7:17 am
Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (2,139 replies, posted in NASTE)
Sorry for the delay in getting the race results posted. Diane and I just got back from our Georgia trip.
Results will be up soon.
====Bill
2,216 June 2, 2018 5:02 pm
Re: Bill's Junk (221 replies, posted in Slot Talk)
Thanks Doc, but there isn't room for more than one person to even move around in there yet. They only way more people would help would be if they took stuff home with them, and I'm not quite frustrated enough to start giving stuff away.......
2,217 June 1, 2018 8:13 pm
Re: Bill's Junk (221 replies, posted in Slot Talk)
I can't believe it has been almost 9 months since I last posted here. To bring everyone up to speed we finally got the shop built. The trim painting still needs to be completed, but other than that I have everything moved into the shop and have started building some benches and cabinets. It is so packed with all my crap I've decided to pack all the slot car stuff upstairs for storage for now. My original plan was to go through all the boxes, sort stuff and put it away as I went. I scrapped that idea when I realized I had no room to work or build anything! So if the box is marked slot car stuff and it's not too heavy to carry upstairs I don't even open it. I just carry it upstairs and stack it with the others. Some of the really heavy boxes I sort into a couple smaller boxes. It's like Bill Murray's Ground Hog Day, only moving style! At this point in time I am pretty sure if someone showed up with a U-Haul truck (a BIG one of course) and $5K in cash I'd help him load it all up and just say adios!
This is downstairs. I know it doesn't look like it, but this IS an improvement.................I think.........
This is the new "Room" upstairs..........it may look like this until the day I die......................
Some of this stuff actually looks kinda familiar......
So there you have it. The reason I am not around the racing scene. I miss everyone but right now my slot car enthusiasm is at an all time low. See ya all down the road.........
2,218 June 1, 2018 8:21 am
Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (2,139 replies, posted in NASTE)
Thanks Doc, it was nice to visit with everyone.
2,219 June 1, 2018 7:09 am
Re: NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship (127 replies, posted in NASTE)
Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.15 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway
Classic Sports Car Div.II
1 Al 75.4 Laps - 12 points
2 Daniel 74.1 - 11 pts.
3 Chris 73.6 - 10 pts.
4 Rico 71.6 - 9 pts.
5 Gary 66.1 - 8 pts.
6 Mitch 64.7 - 7 pts.
7 Terry Redeau 62.2 - 6 pts.
8 Greg 60.5 - 5 pts.
9 Fernando 59.9 - 4 pts.
10 Bill 58.4 - 3 pts.
11 Jake 57.7 - 2 pts.
12 Jeff 43.7 - 1 pt.
Standings After 15 Races
1st Al 112 pts.
2nd Daniel 103 Points
3rd Mitch 82 pts.
4th Chris K. 73 pts.
5th Rico 71 pts.
6th Jeff Fields 51 pts.
7th Gary 48 pts.
8th Greg 43 pts.
9th Fernando 36 pts.
10th Stan 32 pts.
11th Monte 24 pts.
12th - tie- Jeff Burns 17 pts.
12th - tie- Terry Redeau 17 pts.
14th - tie- Chris Hammett 14 pts.
14th - tie- Jake 14 pts.
16th Amy 7 pts.
17th - tie- David 6 pts.
17th - tie- Bill 6 pts.
19th Victoria 4 pt.
20th - tie Nicki 1 pt.
20th - tie Vinny 1 pt.
20th - tie Jimmy 1 pt.
2,220 June 1, 2018 6:55 am
Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (2,139 replies, posted in NASTE)
I finally made it over to Al's for some Odd Thursday Night Racing. The racing in both the Le Mans and Classic Sports Car II classes was very close! In Le Mans less than 1 lap separated first through fourth! In the Classic Sports Car II class, the top four finishers all completed more than 70 laps! Thanks Al for some fantastic racing and AWESOME Salmon!
So here's some results:
Le Mans
1 Daniel 69.6 Laps
2 Rico 69.4
3 Chris 69.2
4 Jeff 68.9
5 Al 67.0
6 Gary 66.9
7 Bill 65.9
8 Greg 65.3
9 Mitch 65.2
10 Terry Abbott 65.0
11 Jake 63.1
12 Terry Redeau 59.0
Classic Sports Car Div.II - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.15
1 Al 75.4 Laps - 12 points
2 Daniel 74.1 - 11 pts.
3 Chris 73.6 - 10 pts.
4 Rico 71.6 - 9 pts.
5 Gary 66.1 - 8 pts.
6 Mitch 64.7 - 7 pts.
7 Terry Redeau 62.2 - 6 pts.
8 Greg 60.5 - 5 pts.
9 Fernando 59.9 - 4 pts.
10 Bill 58.4 - 3 pts.
11 Jake 57.7 - 2 pts.
12 Jeff 43.7 - 1 pt.
2,221 May 31, 2018 8:29 pm
Re: Projects: Done/Not So Done (258 replies, posted in Rapid Raceway)
That thing really looks good Howie!
2,222 May 22, 2018 6:11 am
Re: OSCAR Trans Am Race at Electron Raceway in October '18 (5 replies, posted in Electron Raceway)
The BRM Trans Am cars would not be competitive in the OSCAR Trans Am class. Here are the rules I found online for the OSCAR Early Trans Am Class. The BRM cars would be lacking in speed due to the less powerful motor and in handling characteristics due to basic chassis design. It would be like trying to complete against the Thunderslot cars with a stock Ninco Classic Porsche 356 Coupe!
Early Trans Am
Scale 1/24th , 1/25th
Years: 1964 to 1974
Motors: Parma 501 and 502, Proslot PS2003 and PS2002, Hawk 7
Drivers: Vacuformed or Resin cast
Bodies: Body height from bottom of chassis to top of car must be at least 1.695 “
Bodies may not be flared to add extra width unless flairs were part of the kit.Driver is responsible to authenticate Trans Am participatin for any kit to tech officer. All OSCAR general rules apply.
Chassis:
All chassis must have beveled pans to protect track surface from gouging.
A. Must be a 90 degree inline configuration
B. Chassis may be constructed using any material.
C. Cars will have a minimum of .055” ground clearance.
D. Chassis cannot be visible or protrude past the body perimeter when viewed from above or through the drivers compartment.
Visible chassis parts must be painted black or darkened as not to show.
E. Either oilites or ball bearings are legal for axles unless stated otherwise.
Tires
A. All four tires must touch and roll on the track.
B. All tires will have black sidewalls
C. No tire will have less than ¾” diameter.
D. When viewed from above, tires maky not extend beyond the widest part of the wheel opening , when the chassis is at its
center of lateral movement.
E. Front wheels must not be partially hidden by the front or rear edges of the stock front wheel well. (This does not include the
top of the well.)
Bodies:
A. Guide flags must not extend past the foremost part of the body when viewed from above.
B. All cars will have a painted, detailed driver to scale. Interior cockpit tray must conceal the whole chassis.
C. All cars will be painted. (clear coat does not count) and numbered in at least three places. Numbers will be at least ½” tall.
D. All bodies will begin races intact and complete, with no missing parts Bodies will have front and rear windows.
E. Replacement windows other than stock are not allowed.
F. Bodies may not be stretched or modified to fit the chassis.
G. Bodies may not have material moved unless specified in the Modification section of the class.
Sealed Motors
A. Super 16D Parma #502, ProSlot # PS2003, PS2002, Parma 16D #501, Hawk 7 are allowed in those classes that require a
factory seal.
B. Motor brushes and springs may be adjusted or replaced.
C. No shunts allowed
The complete list of OSCAR Rules can be seen here: http://oscrsite.com/rules.htm
OSCAR Website: http://oscrsite.com/
2,223 May 21, 2018 12:02 pm
Topic: OSCAR Trans Am Race at Electron Raceway in October '18 (5 replies, posted in Electron Raceway)
Electron Raceway will host the inaugural event of OSCAR’s 2018/2019 season with a Trans-Am extravaganza. Race date is October 6, 2018. I cordially invite each and every one of you to attend.
Here is a link to the Electron Raceway’s events page where all information about the upcoming OSCAR race can be found http://slotblog.net/forum/427-electron- … ng-events/ The events page currently includes the following.
· Race flyer
· Race reports (including many images) for OSCAR Trans-Am events held at Electron Raceway way back in 2007 and 2008 in an article entitled “Trans-Am Rebirth at Electron Raceway”.
· Race Roster for the upcoming OSCAR Trans-Am Event
The events page will be updated as race date approaches so check back from time to time. I will also try to keep you informed via email as to updates.
If you have an interest in attending the event, please let me know by replying to this email. Also, if interested, send an image of your ride if you wish. I will post your name along with an image of your ride, if applicable in the Race Roster thread. Obviously, plans can change so don’t feel that a response is an ironclad commitment but simply an expression of interest.
In addition, for those who might not have been to Electron Raceway below is a link to the track specifications and pictorial tour http://slotblog.net/topic/60146-electro … rial-tour/
For those interested in the history of the 1 to 1 Trans-Am series below are links to two articles:
“Trans-Am Terrors” by Sam Posey http://slotblog.net/topic/84409-trans-a … sam-posey/
“Trans-Am - The Early Years” by J. Huffman http://slotblog.net/topic/84412-trans-a … j-huffman/
2,224 May 19, 2018 7:50 am
Re: NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship (127 replies, posted in NASTE)
Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.14 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway
Can Am
1 Chris 77.0 Laps - 14 points
2 Al 75.7 - 13 pts.
3 Mitch 70.6 - 12 pts.
4 Rico 70.0 - 11 pts.
5 Jeff Fields 68.9 - 10 pts.
6 Greg 68.0 - 9 pts.
7 Fernando 64.0 - 8 pts. - Fastest Lap 7.189
8 Jeff Burns 64.0- 7 pts.
9 David 63.9 - 6 pts.
10 Amy 61.2 - 5 pts.
11 Chris Hammet 58.1 - 4 pts.
12 Jake 57.7 - 3 pts.
13 Monte 53.1 - 2 pts.
14 Gary 28.1 - 1 pt.
Standings After 14 Races
1st Al 100 pts.
2nd Daniel 92 Points
3rd Mitch 75 pts.
4th Chris K. 63 pts.
5th Rico 62 pts.
6th Jeff Fields 50 pts.
7th Gary 40 pts.
8th Greg 38 pts.
9th- tie Stan 32 pts.
9th - tie Fernando 32 pts.
11th Monte 24 pts.
12th Jeff Burns 17 pts.
13th Chris Hammett 14 pts.
14th Jake 12 pts.
15th Terry Redeau 11 pts.
16th Amy 7 pts.
17th David 6 pts.
18th Victoria 4 pt.
19th Bill 3 pts.
20th - tie Nicki 1 pt.
20th - tie Vinny 1 pt.
20th - tie Jimmy 1 pt.
2,225 May 19, 2018 7:34 am
Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread (2,139 replies, posted in NASTE)
Looks like there was some very close racing at the May 17th Odd Thursday Night Race!
Results from May 17th race:
Classic Sports Car Div. II
1 Chris 74.9 Laps
2 Rico 73.2
3 Jeff 69.4
4 Al 69.2
5 Mitch 69.1
6 Gary 65.4
7 David 62.7
8 Jake 61.5
9 Greg 60.9
10 Fernando 60.2 - Fastest Lap 7.919
11 Amy 60.2
12 Monte 59.7
13 Chris Hammet 55.7
Can Am - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.14
1 Chris 77.0 Laps - 14 points
2 Al 75.7 - 13 pts.
3 Mitch 70.6 - 12 pts.
4 Rico 70.0 - 11 pts.
5 Jeff Fields 68.9 - 10 pts.
6 Greg 68.0 - 9 pts.
7 Jeff Burns 64.0- 8 pts.
8 Fernando 64.0 - 7 pts.
9 David 63.9 - 6 pts.
10 Amy 61.2 - 5 pts.
11 Chris Hammet 58.1 - 4 pts.
12 Jake 57.7 - 3 pts.
13 Monte 53.1 - 2 pts.
14 Gary 28.1 - 1 pt.
BRM Trans Am Class
1 Al 72.3 Laps
2 Gary 71.7 - Fastest Lap 7.023
3 Chris 71.7
4 Jeff Burns 64.1
Open Class
1 Al 79.4 Laps
2 Chris 78.9
3 Gary 73.3
4 Jeff Burns 67.8