801

(8 replies, posted in Cars)

stumbley wrote:

When I was attending UC Santa Barbara one of the guys in my dorm had borrowed his brother's Miura. Drove it down Hollister Road as fast as he could and wrapped it around a tree.

Well we are in tree hugging country. Did the tree make it through the crash and was a lawsuit taken up for the tree to sue the driver and owner????

802

(2 replies, posted in Cars)

scaly does make a pod chassis for car mitch..

803

(21 replies, posted in Events)

man dont get my hopes up like that................

804

(1 replies, posted in Cars)

saw these on home racing world forum.
https://www.constellationhobbies.co.nz/ … iltchassis

wb0s wrote:

I'm also getting ready to rip and tear on my track Doc, but I will make time to come over and give you a hand when you're ready.

Thanks I will take you up on that when the time comes

Should not be to bad. Just need to take a foot of the width and angle one end to clear the garage door  rail.   Table will havewhels so it can be moved out to the middle of the garage. Biggest. Thing making it light enough for one person to tilt  but still ridged not to twist or bend. Think I have good plan on the design. Going need help when it comes to the track though.

well I finally pulled the trigger and tore up the track the for re build of the table to something I can fold up against the wall and be able to park my cars again inside. need to find some boxes to put all the track and boarders in and then start on tearing the table apart and seeing what I can save for reuse and what needs to go to the dump... think  the plane is  to rebuild and go with wood analog and the build a 2nd smaller table and go digital again......

808

(23 replies, posted in NASTE)

Yeah I had plans on redoing my table and track but it is way to hot in the garage  to do anything right now.

809

(23 replies, posted in NASTE)

wb0s wrote:

Just to clarify, the Halloween race does not count for points.

I have not heard of any plans, comments, or ideas about adding tracks to the line up. There are some nice new tracks out there that could surely be added if the interest is there!

I heard there is a really nice one over by Vancouver Mall.The owner  is a really swell  guy to boot.

810

(23 replies, posted in NASTE)

wb0s wrote:

The NASTE Point Series Championship was moved to races held on Odd Thursdays awhile back. The IROC races were no longer scored as part of the Point Series Championship. I feel this is now the best venue and format for the Point Series Championship. There is much more of a competitive feel to the Odd Thursday night races in my opinion, therefore more pertinent to a point series. The IROC races had their own championship.

=======Bill

The Saturday Halloween  thing through me off.with that said has there been any thought of a second track being added to the Thursday  night  list. I DONT think Al going to hoisting any races till these covid19 issue is truly well behind us.

811

(23 replies, posted in NASTE)

These is the Saturday races correct

Ed: To answer, NO.  ====Bill

812

(3 replies, posted in Allenbrook Speedway)

Those should be just  fine just  as long you do not run any Mercedes gt1 cars  on the track. They like to catch air and fly into trees.

Damn......

814

(17 replies, posted in Rapid Raceway)

What ever. Working Saturday  really blows  you know what. Haven't  even looked at a slot controller  since all these covid19  junk went down..... be nice when we can get back to racing the 1/32 cars again.....

Well way to Zack. Hope we can get back to racing sooner than later. Need to pick classes  for the next season.

816

(11 replies, posted in Cars)

Cool. Why your at it looking for a 2019 hotwheels ss camaro also

817

(11 replies, posted in Cars)

hey were can I find a replacement motor fore one of these beast. mine been toast for some time and never got around to replacing it. seems like a good time to do it. what type and size???

Well nuts. looks like another 8 weeks of racing cancelled.looks like it is going to a very very very boring summer by the look of things.

819

(38 replies, posted in Cars)

looks like runner to me. nice work there.

820

(17 replies, posted in Allenbrook Speedway)

Thanks. Looks like I'm in deconstruct and clean up mode. Be sad to see the digital track go but these will be better in the long run.

821

(17 replies, posted in Allenbrook Speedway)

thinking tape. i have no issues so far with the tape on the plastic track.

822

(17 replies, posted in Allenbrook Speedway)

well when you get it all done Im going need some help with my build. going tear it all down and build a new table and mdf road course. table is going be built so i can easy tilt it up  and store up against the wall in the garage.been searching old builds on another forum and found cgyracer old Quail Ridge Speedway  build and that table will be just the ticket looking at 20 by 7 should fit and plenty of room to walk around. here is post i found the pics of the table should be not to hard to copy,
https://www.slotcarillustrated.com/foru … e-speedway

823

(17 replies, posted in Allenbrook Speedway)

that is looking great nice work
k

824

(0 replies, posted in NASTE)

hijacked from another forum. some may have seen before, others maybe not..

Firstly, it’'s important to understand how slot car tyres work (the science bit) so I can explain the clever stuff that I’'ve discovered.

Most people (including me) begin by thinking that more rubber on the track equals more grip. It doesn’'t. You can see this with a simple experiment. Get yourself a school eraser. Place the eraser flat on the track, apply a small amount of pressure, and try to slide it. You’ll find it moves quite easily. Now put the eraser on its edge. Apply the same pressure and you’'ll find it's more difficult to move. This proves that less rubber on the track equals more grip.

If you’'re driving with a magnet, then this isn’'t much of a problem. But, if you'’re into serious competition slot car racing, it’'s very important. The reason why the edge of the eraser had more grip is to do with down pressure. Obviously, the more down pressure you apply, the more the eraser will grip the track. But, if you'’re driving without a magnet, the only down pressure comes from the weight of the car; and, as you know, lighter cars run faster. When I first started out, I used to put lead weight over the rear axle to get some down pressure on my tyres. It worked - sort of - but made the car slow and that weight down the back end caused the car's tail to kick out. The real secret is to get more grip from your tyres without adding any weight to the car. These days, I seldom add any weight to my cars and, providing I've correctly prepared my tyres, they grip the track beautifully.

The next thing we need to understand is how tyre size affects grip and performance. We’'ve already established that a narrow tyre will give more grip than a wide tyre. A narrow tyre will also result in less drag along the straights; I.e. Your car will go faster. That said, a very narrow tyre won’'t corner as well as a wider tyre. That'’s because the car ‘leans’ onto its outside tyre as it sweeps around the bends. This means that the car'’s weight is transferred onto the outside tyres. Remember that more weight (down pressure) equals better grip, so we can get better performance if we use wider tyres (operating under increased down pressure) for going around the bends.

When the slot car is properly set up - loosening body and motor pod screws, fitting a suspension, and all that stuff - you get considerable downforce on the two outside tyres, while the inside tyres, especially the inside rear one, will lift and get less grip. (Note: fitting a spring suspension will help reduce the lifting of the inside rear.) This means that ALL of the motor’'s power is now going through just one tyre. That’'s another reason why you want a wider tyre for cornering; otherwise the tyre has a tendency to skip-and-judder as it can’'t maintain sufficient grip to transfer all of your motor’'s power to the track; spread across two tyres and everything was fine, but with that inside thre lifting, you're going to need to give more grip to that outside tyre. (Note: this same symptom can be attributed to so-called "Ninco hop", where the motor is twisting in its mount. You can usually spot the difference, as what I'm talking about will only occur when cornering.)

If you’'re still with me, you now understand that you want a thin tyre for great grip and low drag when running flat out along the straights, and you want a wide tyre for maximum grip - stopping the rear end from sliding and giving good transfer of accelerating power - when cornering. It sounds like you’'re going to have to go for a compromise tyre width for optimal performance. But, if you’'re into serious racing - like the Slot.It Challenge - there are rules that specify what tyres you have to use. So, we need a way to get our tyres to change their characteristics depending upon whether we’'re accelerating down the straight, breaking hard before entering a corner, minimizing tail slide on entering the corner, and maximizing power put down as we accelerate out of the corner. This is the secret of tyre preparation and conditioning. Now we’'ve discussed the science bit, we'’re almost ready to look at the ‘'how to'’.

One last thing before we get down to business. Tyre diameter also affects gearing. The larger the diameter, the higher the gearing effect. The smaller the tyre diameter, the lower the gearing effect. So you want tall tyres for maximum speed along the straights, but you need a smaller diameter for low gear grunt when accelerating up to maximum speed. Again, we have a conflict: and, again, correct tyre preparation (“conditioning”) will resolve the problem.

MOST SERIOUS RACERS in Slot.It Challenge type races use one size of wheel and tyre. As it’'s a ‘Slot.It’ race, they use that manufacturer’'s 15x10 hubs with 19x10 rubber tyres. This choice is supposed to give an ideal diameter for correct gearing (don't ask me: that's what the experts told me). Ventilated ‘Air Hubs’ are the best choice (as we’'ll see later). Tyre compound depends upon the type of track you'’re running on. Also, to answer the perennial question of “"which tyres are the correct size for my car/hubs?";” (something that drove me crazy when I first started racing); with the exception of F1 tyres, ALL Slot.It tyres will fit all Slot.It hubs. What you need to look at is the overall diameter (the first number) and the tyre width (the second number). So, 19x10 tyres fitted to 15x10 hubs will give an overall diameter of 19 mm and a width of 10 mm. You can mostly ignore the 15 in the hub size. Someone else can explain that bit...

GLUING & TRUING isn’'t just about ensuring the roundness of the tyre and that it doesn’'t come off the hub. You glue just the edges of the tyre. It’'s crucial that you never get glue on the central area of the tyre, just the edges. (We'’ll see why later.) As for truing. You can use a bit of abrasive paper under the rear tyres, but you'’ll get much better results if you use a professional tyre truer. This is because the abrasive action of truing the tyres doesn’'t just ensure that they’'re round with a flat contact surface. Of more importance is how the abrasive ‘roughs up’ the outer surface of the tyre tread; what I call 'scuffing' or breaking up of the tread surface.

If you look at a tyre that has been prepared on a professional tyre truer, you’'ll see that the outer surface of the rubber has a ‘'scuffed'’ appearance, where the relatively soft compound is difficult to abrade, it breaks up rather than coming out smoothly sanded. This is precisely what you want. (Some people have suggested ways to get a smooth finish on the tyres after truing. Ignore them. That slightly scuffed surface is of huge advantage when we use oil to ‘condition’ the tyres.) I won’'t go into truing in detail - there are already many excellent threads on this subject elsewhere on Slotforum. Just be aware that tyre truing must be done slowly, else heat from the abrading action will ‘'cook'’ the outer surface of the rubber, making it hard, and impossible to complete the essential oil ‘conditioning’ process.

OIL CONDITIONING is the real magic! You might think this is simply a way to soften the rubber and give your tyres more grip on the track. In fact, we are seeking to soften the outer surface of our tyres, but that’'s only the beginning of the story. Remember that lengthy preamble about tyre widths and tyre diameters? This is why it'’s important you understood the science.

When you apply oil to the tread of your tyres it'’ll damage, or ‘'degrade'’, the rubber. The rubber will both soften and expand. (Try dropping a new tyre into oil and leaving it a couple of days. It’'ll come out softer. It’'ll also come out about 5% bigger!) That'’s why it’s important we only apply oil to the outer surface of the tread. What we want is to cause just the outer surface of the tread to soften and expand. This is where the ‘scuffing’ of the rubber, created by professional tyre truers, helps. The roughened tread has more surface area (the gaps the scuffing created in the slightly broken up tyre'’s tread) which will absorb that rubber-degrading oil much quicker, as well as causing expansion upwards/outwards, the cracks in the scuffed tread will expand sideways. Thereby we get a 'mushrooming' effect on the outside tread of our tyres. It also reduces the risk of oil permeating too deep into the tyre. You only want so soften and mushroom that outer surface of the tread.

Apply the oil in very small amounts. Just a smear. Do NOT attempt to speed things up by applying too much oil. It will soak too deep into the tyre with disastrous results. The cracks in that scuffed roughened tread will hold enough oil for our needs. So wipe away any excess. I usually apply one smearing of oil every day, and no more than every 12 hours. The degrading action of the oil takes at least one week before you’'ll see the desired result. (In fact, Slot.It Challenge enthusiasts usually have several sets of glued and trued wheels and tyres on the go. As we always use the same size hubs and tyres, this means we can put our best conditioned tyres on the car whenever we race.)

You’'ll know when your tyres are ready because you'’ll see a slight bulging or mushrooming (termed ‘blistering’) of the rubber around the centre of the tread. This blistering, caused by the rubber expanding across the tread, is that little bit of magic that we’'re after! If you’'re using normal hubs, as versus those with holes drilled through them, you can help the formation of the blistering by injecting air under the centre of the tyre using a hypodermic syringe. In part, this is why we didn’'t permit any glue to get onto the central ridge of the hubs; we need that space for injecting air. We also need the rim of the tyres to be airtight enough to hold the injected air while the oil is doing its stuff. Don’'t inject too much air, we’re only after a swelling of about 0.5mm, and go right around the tyre to ensure even inflation. (Note: over time, the air will leak out of he tyre, but doesn’'t need replacing, as the action of the oil will already have done its job in permanently reshaping the tread.)

Ventilated hubs and Air Hubs work slightly differently. Those ventilation holes, or the air inside the Air Hub, facilitate easier expansion of the tyre (its overall diameter) due to centrifugal force as the wheels spin faster. Also, the Air Hubs, where the tyre sits on a pair of thin disc supports without a solid centre, have the additional advantage that the softened ‘bulged’ part of the tyre has nothing underneath the bulge. At speed, the tyre takes on a narrower more bulged shape entirely supported by centrifugal force. But, as the car decelerates, the centrifugal bulging reduces AND there'’s a hollow space into which the tread can drop; so that the tread becomes completely flat, giving that wider flat tread we want for breaking, cornering, and transfer of power under acceleration. (Note: if you examine a correctly conditioned tyre that's fitted to an Air Hub, you won't see as pronounced a mushroomed bulging as you'd see on a standard hub, where the tyre is supported from underneath. Instead, the test of when the tyre is ready is to look for a very slight bulge combined with the tyre being very soft when you press it down into the gap of the Air Hub.)

If you’'re using standard or hubs with just ventilation holes, there is no air space for the bulged tyre centre to drop into, so although the conditioned tyres will change their shape according to how fast the wheels are spinning, your tyre's treads will never become completely flat when the car slows and leans all of its weight onto the outside wheels during cornering. This is why the Ventilated Air Hub is your best choice.

Finally, it is possible to over-condition your tyres. With standard hubs you only want a maximum mushrooming of about 0.5 mm. With Air Hubs, it's the softness that matters: this is easiest tested by having an untreated tyre to compare with the one you're conditioning. You'll know when you've got it right, because your lap times will drop incredibly and the car's handling will be superb.


So, there you have it. Tyres that become wider or thinner, and taller or shorter, always giving maximum grip and minimal drag, with a self-adjusting 'virtual gearing' effect, according to your car’'s needs. It took me a long time and a lot of frustrating mistakes before I discovered all this, so I hope it will be useful in helping others to understand what they need to get to grips (sorry, couldn’'t resist) with the dark art of slot car tyre technology. Clever stuff: I wish I'’d invented it!

825

(84 replies, posted in NASTE)

It called bored  stiff  Chris.but yes let's keep it about slot cars and bar bq