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Thanks Rico, and yes I'll be out from time to time. There's just so much racing going on all around now that I can't make time for everything. In the past I haven't done any racing at all during the summer. These last couple of years I've worked in a bit more, but it's put me behind on everything else. Right now I'm just trying to make sure everything is set for the upcoming NASTE season. I keep telling myself one of these years I'm going to just race with some of the other clubs. For quite a few years I've been wanting to make more OSCAR races. The OSCAR races take more time and dedication for me. I'm not a fast car builder, and as you know I like to be at least somewhat competetive. So that means lots of time commitment for me to race the OSCAR events (again that's me). That's the one thing that has made the 1/32 scale cars so enjoyable for me. I can get the cars set up or built much quicker than I can build 1/24 OSCAR or PASER cars. The 1/24 NASTE cars have also filled a "time gap" for me. They are pretty quick and easy to build as well. Well, enough ramblin' on. I'll see you at the races!  ------------------------Bill

That's funny, a lot of them look like kid's toys to me! I'm looking forward to trying to make "racers" out of them...... I always tell the guys at work; "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit"........... we'll see.  ---------------------Bill

I had ordered two from an Ebay seller. My plan was to try them out as potentila IRCO cars. After reading the review I went ahead and ordered four more. These things are CHEAP, and NASTE needs a set of IROC cars to run at Kimm's 1/32 routed track in Eugene. I'll try them out when they arrive to see if they are suitable. I'll keep ya'll posted.  ------------------------Bill

Message is off to Bob......  -----------------Bill

Oops, I'll let you guys know in a week or so..............first hand.............hey, at least they were cheap!  ------Bill

Rico, You have correctly deciphered what I was trying to communicate! Yes, they are 90 degrees out of position. And like you I figure for the price, as long as they run!  -------------------------Bill

Rico, Yes the brushes do have a concave area on the ends where it appears they should make contact with the commutator. Instead of the concave area running parallel to the commutator it is perpendicular. It seems to me you would have more surface area and better contact if the brushes were installed with the concave area contacting the commutator (one large contact point - versus two small contact point on each brush). When you install the brushes on 16D motors you install them with the brush concave area parallel to the commutator. Then you run the motor at low RPM to seat the brushes properly. It also seems the way these motors come from the factory the commutators will wear more rapidly with two grooves developing. The Radio Shack motor brushes are installed in a skewed manner also.  ----------------------Bill

Got my $4.99 motors today. Haven't installed one in a car, just bench tested one. Draws .25 amp at initial start up at 12 volts. Current draw is negligible when it is up to speed, and it winds up instantly. Seems to have good torque and quick response. The motor is very well vented, much better than the Slot.It motors! It also has a very good inspection "window" in the endbell allowing you to view the brushes and spring/arms. Interesting how the brushes are installed on the arms. I've seen this before and can't help to wonder if it's a mistake?!  --------------------------Bill

What are the real reasons for going to an IROC format? I agree with George about the IROC format levelling the playing field. It is a good way to ensure the equality of the equipment. So is the other consideration of IROC at BSCC actually cost? If so why not use cars that cost less than $50 each? There are many to chose from!  --------------------Bill

Rico, The popsicle stick chassis? I like it! I have a bunch of cheap Eldon and Strombecker bodies we could use....  ----------Bill

Great stuff Rico!  -----------------Bill