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Hi Rich, I had a couple opportunities to race on your track some years back.  Your track is beautifully constructed and I found the layout challenging and fun! Hopefully now that I'm retired I'll be able to get back down to Roseburg for some more racing! Thanks for posting here on our NASTE site!  -------------Bill

Thanks Rico, me too!

It was a fun night!We had nine entries in both classes, and Glenn Heath stopped by to visit. It was great to see Glenn and have a chance to talk with him. We started the night of racing with the Classic Sports Car Class. Greg Petrolati (Grrenman) raced to the win with his beautiful scratchbuilt Scarab. I think he may be getting a traction advantage from the drool I leave on the track everytime he brings that thing out! The racing was very close, only three laps separated first from sixth. Second up was the GT class and the racing was just as close, well except for Rico kicking our butts by two and a half laps with his Slot.It Ferrari F40! Behind Rico's dust there were only five laps between second and eigth. After the Classic Sports Car and GT Class races the 1/24 BRM Porsches hit the track. We now have five racers with the fine BRM cars, three of which were still around after the 1/32 races were over. Chris Kouba has generously provided TooBad Motorplex with enough BRM Porsche to enable us to run an IROC race for the BRM cars at the tail end of the evening's activities. Last night ended up just being a test session with the BRMs, and some fun racing. It still amazes me how well these BRM cars perform on the TooBad track, and how much FUN they are! So, the 1/24 BRM Porsche Class will officially be on the menu at the next Odd Thursday Night Race. For the racers that do not have one of these cars (yet - we hope) there will be loaner cars available! These cars are just a BLAST to race, so plan on sticking around next race!

The race results:

Classic Sports Car Class:

1st Greg Petrolati 47.3 laps
2nd Gary Goose Gossett 46.8
3rd Rico Locati 46.4
4th Tracy Flood 45.6
5th Bill Bostic 45.3
6th Bryan Dickerson 44.1
7th Monte Saager 40.6
8th Tie Jimmy Jones 39.4
8th Tie Mitch Brooks 39.4

GT Class:

1st Rico Locati 55.0 laps
2nd Tie Tracy Flood 52.7
2nd Tie Bill Bostic 52.7
4th Gary Goose Gossett 52.2
5th Jimmy Jones 50.448
6th Greg Petrolati 50.1
7th Mitch Brooks 47.8
8th Bryan Dickerson 47.7
9th Monte Saager 46.2

1/24 BRM Porsche 962:

1st EVERYBODY!!!

The way Dorothy is improving, she might just beat us all at Hammer Time also!!!!

I agree we don't need a rule to determine if someone should be racing in the expert division. Although during the meeting in August it was felt we did need a rule. That's where the rule came from. It was not my idea, but a group consensus (of those that took an active part in the discussion, which there were few). However that being said, I also know that sometime, someone will push the limit, sandbag, or whatever to take advantage of winning in the amatuer ranks. There are people who are possessed when it comes to the desire or need to win! I think requiring racers to move up to expert if they win the NASTE Challenge Championship for the year is enough.

As far as the format we used at Monte's using the scoring system, I think the heats need to be longer (at least 4 minutes). The break in the middle of the heat needs to be a pause, not a total restart after the break. It should be 1 heat race with a pause in the middle to reslot cars. What we ended up with was two 30 second heats back to back in each lane. As an example of what could and did take place was; I ran my first 30 second segment completing just over 3 laps. The other two racers completed just under 2 laps. My car stopped 1/10th of a lap after the lap counter, the other two cars stopped 8/10th's to 9/10's before the lap counter. Since the race was escentially re-started and the lap counter was reset after the "pause", I started the next segment in last place almost 1 full lap behind. Now I understand the same applies for all racers, but if points are awarded for finish positions the math does not work out. A 30 second segmnent covering 3 laps is not enough time to determine anything as far as driving skill. I understand this type of racing would be frustrating for the amatuer ranks, but it can be just as frustrating for the expert ranks. This type of racing illustrates how good driving skills are just as important as going fast! In a 30 second segment where 3 laps is the maximum, it promotes strategic car placement for the second segment, not racing. In my opinion the heats were not long enough to acturately determine a winner. I'm not whinin', just stating the facts!

OK, as to Dorothy's question about other amatuers with scores indicating top 3 finishes. After reviewing the scores for the amatuers; Todd, Russel, Tyler, Victoria, June, Mitch, Perry, and Kira ALL scored their top 3 finishes in team endurance races on the digital track. Those races should not affect their amatuer standings because the finishes were not an individual accomplishment. Thomas scored two of his top 3 finishes in the team enduros. One of Thomas' top 3 finishes (scored as a 2nd place finish overall) was a lap total from an amatuer race at Rico's Atumn Hills track. That lap total gave him first place in that amatuer race, which bumped him into the expert race. He placed 7th in the expert race, however if he could have repeated or equalled the lap total he got in the amatuer race, he would have tied for third in the expert race. However he DIDN'T, and as the rule reads; "Expert Racer - Any person who has placed first, second or third in an expert race with other expert racers".

OK...........

So she was second overall, right?

Terry, You are much closer than I on the actual rule! Here it is per the meeting 2013 BBQ Meeting at Monte & Victoria's:

"Expert Racer - Any person who has placed first, second or third in an expert race with other expert racers. Expert status is forever. Experts may not move down to race in amateur only races. Any racer can, at any time, self declare as an expert. Such declarations are irrevocable."

I see 19 points added to Dorothy's Point Series total. That would indicate a second place finish in an expert race. Looks like she now has "Expert" driver rating.

So my question would be; does she have to race Expert for the rest of the season?
Or does her "Expert" status start with the beginning of next season?

Hi Dorothy, Thanks again for taking photos and video, and of course for bringing your fabulous treats!!!
Monte & Victoria, thanks for an excellent race day!!!

As far as the moving up to expert rule, I believe what we decided in regards to amateur status was; if an amateur wins the NASTE CHAMPIONSHIP they have to move up to expert status.

It's the Odd Thursday Racing where; if you win you are required to race magnet-less, which is basically joining the expert ranks.

Dennis or Victoria, please correct me if I'm wrong. I know we have it written down somewhere...........

P.S. Yup, no longer on Facebook........

EXCELLENT advice Smooth!!!

Dorothy, I would NEVER ask YOU to leave!

The beach was great! We stayed in Newport. Yesterday (Wednesday) the weather was even nice and sunny most of the day. We drove up to Lincoln City and I found a 1/32 Mustang model (new in the box) at an antique store for $3.00!!! Also won $240 at Chinook Winds Casino (on a 40 cent bet!!!).

Cool Smooth!  Lookin' forward to it!

The potential for bad luck is evenly distributed between all the racers before the flag drops. After the flag drops it would appear some choose not to take advantage of the opportunity.