From Greenman:

As to the break out point between the low (economy) end and the high end of the series historically it was the end of the tube framed cars which didn't necessarily mark their disappearance, rather it marked their gradual march to the back of the grid as newer, more competitive cars moved up. For our purposes I maybe "what's under the hood" could determine where the car is placed. For instance the MRRC Chaparral shouldn't be classed with the Slotit Chappie. They're not engineered similarly they don't perform similarly... ergo different class. OTOH, we could go with performance, or lap times. If "RTR" car X has a faster time than Y "scratch built" cars we could select a break out time with the faster cars classed higher than the slower cars.

I like the idea of limiting the class to two divisions, older cars and newer.  I'm not a big fan of allowing magnetic traction on either class, but I'll go with whatever you guys decide. I think the scratchbuilt could run against the RTR type cars. That seems to work well with the other classes we race. I'm leaving this class up to you guys for the most part. You guys will be the sponsors, just as the Trans Am class is Glenn's, the BRM class is Chris', and the F1 class is Monte's. I think this class might be a good replacement for our current GT class. It will be better structured than our current GT class.

==============Bill

From Goose:

The two class suggestion sounds good. Questions; What is the break in years between the two classes? Do we have enough model variety available to use in each of the two classes,without everyone using the same style car? Even if we use the 20k (i like) motor rule, this does not allow a box stock mrrc 21,500k motor car to run. I still ask do we allow the larger size Carrera cars? In the second class the use of 25k motor is fine with me, but i am not in favor of magnet use, will this cause some people to tear up cars from spin outs-could be costly?

My suggestions on the rules was to allow a low cost entry "Vintage" car. And to allow "modified" more costly cars in the other classes. Each class scored separately like f-1 class. I wanted to keep from having a run-away class by mod cars over rtr style (cost effect) class cars, which you're 2 class does address. Also i wanted to allow the use of any of the body styles in any of the 3 classes to keep some variety, similar to the way we run our f-1 classes with different year/style cars running at same time. good idea's Greg.
More thoughts/suggestions please. Bill, remember you are the referee here.

Goose

From Greenman:

Keeping in mind how Can Am worked historically it was a sports racer out growth of the USSRC racing series. Early cars were tube-framed, which later gave way to monocoque racers. The rules were basically "no rules" whatever you could do to go faster was okay... later it was a bit more structured. This included cars with moving wings (chaparral) vacuum traction assist (chaparral again), moving bodies, multiple engines in short... whatever. What really killed the series was the money chase and timing. On one hand, Porsche just out spent everyone else and ran the little guys out of the series. Add to that, the early 70s oil shock and didn't help either. Ironically the last Can Am Championship was won by the UOP Shadow a titanium monocoque car driven by George Follmer.

Might I suggest two classes? Early cars with an under 20k motor, configuration gearing, etc open. For to reflect the tube frame cars. And a later car series with a 25k motor limit and one (gag) magnet? This would represent the later cars that showed the progress learning about aerodynamics really worked that took place over the years. Both series should allow alloy wheels and scratch building, thought I feel Slotit McLarens may dominate the late cars as the Slotit Chaparral may dominate the early cars. How do you guy feel about it?

Greg

Submitted for Goose:

I also would like to see this class. What years are we considering 1964-1974? How about we trade/rotate group c class with can/am?
I would like to see a max motor rpm of 19,500/19,800, these motors are cheap to replace. "No sponge tires allowed". Do we allow the larger size Carrera cars? I do see a problem with mrrc chap 2c ff-050 21,000 rpm motor, the fly f-1 used a ff-050 @ 19,500 rpm, but i do not know it it is available. I see several classes required-see below.

"Vintage" class; start with a out of the box rtr car, (fly, slot-it, other?) see motor rule, replace rear tires (only). "Following allowed for all classes"; allow removing material from bottom of interior-do not cut thru, lowering of body at mounting posts, no fender opening/lower sills cutting (inside fender clearance allowed). Weight allowed.

"Vintage Mod"(ified) class; see motor rule, use plastic or resin body, with plastic or resin chassis (some resin kits come with chassis), ok to use set screw wheels.
mrrc chap 2c body to be eligible for this class. Weight allowed.

"Vintage Pro" class; see motor rule, use plastic or resin body, with plastic or "brass" scratch built or purchased chassis, ok to use set screw wheels.
mrrc chap 2c body to be eligible for this class. Weight allowed.

Goose

There has been a proposal and some discussion about starting a new class for Odd Thursday Night racing. A Vintage Can Am class has been suggested and there seems to be quite a few racers in favor. I'm fine with any new classes Odd Thursday racers would be interested in adding to our roster. I would suggest we temporarily replace one of the classes we are currently racing with the new class, or we could go to a three race rotation instead of the current two race rotation. Currently we rotate the 1:32 classes every other race.

The only other thing I would request would be a set of rules to post for the class. I am open to any and all suggestions!

Thanks!   ===========Bill

3,782

(53 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!! I have THAT A1 GP.......from Randy's!!!!

I assume the YELLOW Buick is for Monte's benefit???

.................it seems to me you're FLAT OUT on EVERY track!!!!

3,783

(1 replies, posted in Race Rules)

NASTE will be adding races to the normal NASTE IROC series races at tracks that support magnetic traction racing in 1:32 scale. These races are designed to support and cultivate the Trans Am Class already established by Bob. These NASTE races will be referred to as the NASTE Trans Am Cup. Points will be tallied and recorded for each race in regards to racer’s finish position with a NASTE Trans Am Cup winner crowned at the end of the season.

After the conclusion of the normal NASTE IROC races, one race for the Scalextric Trans Am Class cars will be held. This race will consist of one round of racing, and is open to any racer that wishes to compete. There will be no divisions within the class in regards to the racers level of skill or ability. This will not be an IROC race, but there may be loaner cars available. Cars compliant with the rules for the NASTE Trans Am Cup will be referred to as NAK-Spec cars.

NASTE Trans Am Cup – NAK-Spec Rules:
Cars must comply with The Gorge Trans Am Challenge Rules as follows; 1966-1972 Trans Am cars by Scalextric only. All cars will be out of the box stock. No modifications other than changing the pick up braid. No adding of weight allowed.

In addition for the NAK-Spec cars, Paul Gage urethane tires are allowed for use on the stock rear wheels.

In this past year Bob Nakamura introduced us to a new class of racing at The Gorge Raceway.  For those unaware, Bob held a race for Scalextric Trans Am cars in stock configuration.  The rules were quite simple, only allowing a change of the guide shoe braid. The race was a huge success, and this class of cars proved to be a lot of fun to race.

With that in mind NASTE will be adding races to the normal NASTE IROC series races at tracks that support magnetic traction racing in 1:32 scale. These races are designed to support and cultivate the Trans Am Class already established by Bob. In addition it will give those racers that choose to compete in Bob’s Trans Am races a chance to compete more often and get more use out of their cars. These NASTE races will be referred to as the NASTE Trans Am Cup. Points will be tallied and recorded for each race in regards to racer’s finish position with a NASTE Trans Am Cup winner crowned at the end of the season.

At the NASTE races hosted by Autumn Hills, Penguin Point, TooBad Motorplex, and of course The Gorge Raceway, after the conclusion of the normal NASTE IROC races, one race for the Scalextric Trans Am Class cars will be held. This race will consist of one round of racing, and is open to any racer that wishes to compete. There will be no divisions within the class in regards to the racers level of skill or ability. This will not be an IROC race, but there may be loaner cars available. Again this race is designed primarily to give racers that have cars to compete in Bob Nakamura’s Scalextric Trans Am races more opportunities to race their cars. Please do not assume there will be loaner cars available at each race, or for all racers.

One last note regarding the rules; Bob set this class up with just the one modification allowed regarding braid replacement. In addition to that change, cars for the NASTE Trans Am Cup are allowed to use Paul Gage urethane rear tires. The tires must be mounted to the stock rear wheels only. Cars legal for the NASTE Trans Am Cup races will be referred to as NAK-Spec.
There you have it. Even MORE fun for the NASTE 2016 racing season!

==============Bill

The Gorge Trans Am Challenge Rules:
1966-1972 Trans Am cars by Scalextric only. All cars will be out of the box stock. No modifications other than changing the pick up braid. No adding of weight allowed.

NASTE Trans Am Cup – NAK-Spec Rules:
Cars must comply with The Gorge Trans Am Challenge Rules. In addition, Paul Gage urethane tires are allowed for use on the stock rear wheels.

Below are the proposed dates for the NASTE 2016 racing season. There are 8 Sunday races and 2 Saturday races listed. The two Saturday races have been reserved for The Gorge Raceway. Track owners, I will be sending out an email requesting your choices of dates if you are planning to host a race or races. Please list your race date preference in order of priority. Race dates will be asigned on a first come first serve basis based on your priorities. All listed race dates are Sundays unless otherwise specified. All dates are proposed and adjustments can be made if and as needed.

Race Dates: September 20, 2015 - WFO
                   October 18, 2015 - Penguin Point
                   October 30, 2015 - Halloween Race @ Rapid Raceway
                   November 8, 2015 - TooBad Motorplex
                   December 19, 2015 - Saturday - The Gorge
                   January 17, 2016 - Jacquelin Park
                   February 21, 2016
                   March 19, 2016 - Saturday - The Gorge
                   April 17, 2016- Autumn Hills
                   May 22, 2016 - Hammertime
                   June 12, 2016 - Shoot Out @ Rapid Raceway

3,786

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

I hear ya!!!

3,787

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Mitch, did you buy that Strombecker set?

3,788

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

They probably heard of Larry!!!

3,789

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Cool video Rico...........but where's Cockerham????????

3,790

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Huh????

3,791

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Lucky for me!!!!

Also saw a Strombecker set in the box with Ford GT40 and Chaparral 2D cars for $50, an Aurora Thunderjet 500 4 lane set with blue XKE, white Corvette, red Thunderbird, and yellow Maserati cars for $125, and a few T-Jet HO cars here and there in the $40 range. Also saw a T-Jet Batmobile with the box for $275. I felt the cars I saw were priced too high, but the two sets seemed about right.

You guys are most welcome!  I'm glad we are getting good use out of the track, and it's great to be able to race and have fun with so many good people! This month completes our third straight year of Odd Thursday Racing at TooBad Motorplex! I'm looking forward to much more!!!!

3,793

(14 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Diane and I went to the Antique & Collectible Show at the Expo Center today. Saw a few slot cars and track sets. I only picked up on the best deal I found. I got this little box of stuff for $20.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9843.jpg

Best of it all was this Aurora 1/32 Mercury Comet. It is missing the windows and rear bumper assembly, but the body is uncut and as close to perfect as you can get.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9845.jpg

And the other half of the best is this Aurora 1/32 Corvair. It is missing one headlight and the rear bumper assembly, but this body is also uncut and nearly perfect.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9844.jpg

3,794

(53 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

Darn........I'd buy it if it was 4 lane!!!!............................ok, maybe not..................

3,795

(2 replies, posted in Slot Talk)

That'll make 'er loose!!!!

Lists updated from July 9, '15 race.

July 9th race results -

In the very closely contested BRM Porsche 962 Class it was Chris Kouba posting the win.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9842.jpg

BRM Porsche 962 results:
1st Chris kouba 58.8 laps
2nd Goose Gossett 58.5
3rd Rico Locati 58.2
4th Bill Bostic 57.5
5th Al Christensen 54.7
6th John Morse 51.7
7th Mitch Brooks 48.9

July 9th race results-

Chris Kouba finished first in the Over 50 Class with his Cox Ford GT40 Roadster.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9840.jpg

Over 50 Class results:
1st Chris Kouba 54.0 laps
2nd Rico Locati 53.1
3rd Goose Gossett 51.4
4th Beau Frazier 51.3
5th Al Christensen 50.8
6th John Morse 47.0
7th Bill Bostic 45.5
8th Mitch Brooks 45.3
9th Howie Howard 45.2

Chris' winning Cox Ford GT40 Roadster "Custom"......
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9841.jpg

July 9th results -

The Goose also drove to the overall win in the F1 Class with his Scalextric Eagle.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9836.jpg

F1 results:
1st Goose Gossett 54.6 laps - First Overall + First in SVD.
2nd Rico Locati 51.1
3rd Monte Saager 49.1
4th Greg Petrolati 48.3 + First in SND
5th Bill Bostic 47.6
6th Dennis Hart 46.9 + First in SHD
7th Mitch Brooks 46.2
8th Beau Frazier 45.3
9th Cash 44.1 + First in MD
10th Howie Howard 44.0
11th Jimmy Jones 43.8
12th John Morse 43.3
13th Al Christensen 39.9

Cash, in his first Odd Thursday Night race at TooBad Motorplex was first in the F1 Modern Division (MD).
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9837.jpg

Dennis Hart finished first in the Scalextric Historic Division (SHD).
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9838.jpg

Greg Petrolati was first in the Scratchbuilt Narrow Division (SND)
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9839.jpg

The racing was very close last night as the lap totals show in the results. There were many good close on track battles in all of the classes! Here are the results from last night's racing - July 9th.

Gary "Goose" Gossett was first in the Classic Sports Car Class with his Ninco Corvette.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_9835.jpg

Classic Sports Car:
1st Goose Gossett  50.5 laps
2nd Rico Locati 50.1
3rd Greg Petrolati 49.4
4th Monte Saager 48.8
5th Dennis Hart 47.3
6th Chris Kouba 46.8
7th Al Christensen 46.6
8th Mitch Brooks 46.4
9th Gary "Howie" Howard 45.9
10th John Morse 45.7
11th Jimmy Jones 45.3
12th Beau Frazier 36.5
13th Cash 34.5