226

(8 replies, posted in Cars)

Upon further review, they do all fall into the same era class:

LMP Era (LMP) - Full fendered sportscars from 1994 through current  which ran in FIA, IMSA, or SCCA sanctioned events.  Any motors (22k limit), tires, driveline configuration, or chassis material may be used.  Bodies must be injection molded or resin cast and not vacuum molded.  Thunderslot brand RTR cars are NOT eligible for this class, but their driveline components (wheels, axles, gears, tires) and guide assembly may be used for tuning.

So yes, even though the class name has LMP in its title, lots of other cars are welcome to the party.

227

(8 replies, posted in Cars)

No need to create a new class for these.  They would probably all fall into the same Sportscar Era class.  The Marcos might run in a different era (technically) but I wouldn't object to having them all on the track together.

docdoom wrote:

Fy short notice but Parkside will be racing on 11/21/18 wed. 6ish til around 9 longer if needed most will have turkey day off

Doc,

Who/where is Parkside?

Big Smooth and Rico knock the Champ down a peg or two!?!!??  Nice work gentlemen!

230

(27 replies, posted in NASTE)

wb0s wrote:

I'm a BUILDIN' !



That's great that you've chosen a costume, Bill.  Will you have a car to run as well?


...Tip your waitresses......

Well that's how out of touch I have been lately.  I will just excuse myself from the rest of this discussion.

Chris

Whoops, missed the slim can part.  Maybe we need to see how it runs.  If it's anything like the motor they put in the Mk IV's, it might not be competitive even if it is 26-27k.

I'd say let it play but with a motor swap.  It shouldn't be too hard for any one of us to come up with an extra 18k Scaley motor.

234

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

LMP is actuallly a subset of the GT class, basically from 1994 onward, with the roof requirement removed (which applies to all sportscar classes: PGE, GFX, & LMP).  Basically, if it has fenders and raced post-1993, it's in.

As Doc said, there are excellent offerings from Slot.It, NSR, Scaleauto, Avant Slot, Ninco, and MR Slotcar, and even some mediocre performers from Scalextric and Carrera if you're looking to challenge yourself or build your own chassis with a nice looking body on top.

As an aside, our current GT3 cars qualify in this class, but would likely be knives at the proverbial gunfight knowing what level of performance the other brands are capable of.

In addition, despite the name of the class being "LMP", any style cars are eligible- LMP, GT, etc...  For example, Al's NSR Corvette would be a good runner here, even though it's not an LMP car.  Just that it is fendered and ran after 1993.

I think most of us have BRM's, it's just that not everyone sticks around after class to run them for fun.

235

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

docdoom wrote:

Looks like we might have to have tie breaker vote on Thursday for the 4th class


Or stick with just 3 classes for the championship.

Or you can have another vote of do we have 3 classes or 4, and then vote on the 4th class if needed.

Just thinking out loud here...

Looking at the leading classes so far, we have 3 very well established classes where everyone has a fairly well developed car.  Then there are the 4th place tie classes.

In the LMP class, we don't have a lot of people running these- same with the BRM.  As much as I'd like to see the big cars included in the championship, if we pick a class where people don't have developed cars (and where some nameless people **do**), there might possibly be a perceived advantage there, and it might not be a good class to include. 

Same argument could be made regarding the LMP class.  We haven't had people develop cars and we haven't vetted the class rules, so it might be a little risky to have it as a class this year.  Maybe we can start the proposal for next year's championship classes with BRM and/or LMP and let this year be the other three?

All,

On Sat 9/29, the Scuderia will have an open shop day for the sponsors and team members who helped us get up and down the hill this year.  If you're free, please feel free to stop by between 11 and 2.  Burgers, dogs, and beverages will be available and if the weather is nice, we'll have the cars available for incredibly mellow runs down the hill in front of the house.

Please let me know if you're coming.

Thanks,
Chris

237

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

reek455 wrote:

Oops I used the number of votes I meant class 8 LeMans Classics


...and now that I am about to count your votes, I need to know which Class 1 Division you would like.  I should have just given them separate numbers.

Div I or Div II?

CK

238

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

reek455 wrote:

Classes 3,5,4,1 for me

Rico - Class 5 is not eligible so please choose another, and please specify which class 1 you would prefer.

239

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

Goose wrote:

What happened to "F-1" class(s)? I would still like to run them.

From the initial post in this thread: "F1 has too broad of a spectrum to include as part of the championship."

The thought was there was such a diversity of sub-classes and a disparity of performance between them that it would be tough to run it equitably as a championship class.  The class(es) will still be run as part of Odd Thursdays but they won't be part of the championship.

240

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

Going back through this, I should have split Classics Div I and Div II into separate voting options.  If you have voted for one of them, please specify your preference.  If you truly have no preference, your vote will be applied to the "leading" division.

Monte/Stan - Please edit your vote options if you have a preference.

241

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

Sorry- forgot to mention that I clearly couldn't get the poll option to support all the classes.  Please do what Doc did and post up here or email to me and Al.

CK

242

(42 replies, posted in NASTE)

The calendar is saying we're already about halfway through September, so it would be in our best interests to get the 2019 Point Series Championship underway.  We would like to get it started with the first Odd Thurs in October, which would make the kick off date Thurs, Oct 11.  The question is, what are the classes we will run?

We will decide democratically this year- pick the four classes you would like to have run and either post them here or send them to Al or me and we will count them up.  We would like the voting to be complete prior to next Odd Thurs, so get your input put in by Weds, 9/26.

Remember, our classes have been restructured and some have been modified starting this year.  Below is a brief summary of the eligible classes:

Class 1 Div I  - Classic Sports Car through 1967, Div I (14k, flat chassis)
Class 1 Div II - Classic Sports Car through 1967, Div II (18k & pods allowed)
Class 3 - BRM 1/24 Group C - Box stock with the allowance of alternate gears.
Class 4 - Trans Am - Scaley motors, some parts swap/mods allowed.
Class 6 - Over 50 - not everyone has one but it's still a class we have on the books.
Class 7 - Can Am - RTR stock to scratch built, hard bodies, 23k max motor
Class 8 - Le Mans Classics - restricted brands, stock motor; gears, axles, wheels, tires can change, some mods allowed.
Class 9 - GT3 - Scaley GT3 cars only, minor tuning allowed
Class 10 - BRM Classics - Box stock
Class 11 - BRM GT - Box stock
Class 12 - Carrera DTM - no-mag, BOSA rear tires, and lead for tuning
Class 13 - BRM Trans Am - Box stock
Class 14 - USRRC - see Can Am but 21k max

and then the evolution of the GT class, now known as Sportscar Era classes:
Pre-Ground Effect (PGE) Era - Full-fendered sportscars from 1968 through 1980, 22k motor limit
Ground Effect Era (GFX) - Full fendered sportscars from 1981 through 1993, 22k motor limit
LMP Era (LMP) - Full fendered sportscars from 1994 through current, 22k motor limit

And last but not least, the Open class (otherwise known as "Thunderslot" class).

The above is a quick cut and paste summary and may be wildly inaccurate.  The full rules are here:

http://naste.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=630

Visit them to ensure you are voting for the class you really want.  As an aside, F1 has too broad of a spectrum to include as part of the championship.

There are a handful of classes on here where not everyone has a car, but in the interest of full inclusion, they are included in the voting.

I believe I set the poll up to support selecting 4 options but that may not be the case.  If it's not, please either post your votes for all to see or email them to me or Al.

We can review the direction we're pointed at on 9/27 and ratify the decisions, and then it's game on for the series!

Look forward to your input.

Chris


Vote count as of post #24 (current class 1 votes applied to leading Class 1 category until specified):

# of votes    Class
2    Class 1 Div I
7    Class 1 Div II
3    Class 3 - BRM Group C
1    Class 4 - Trans Am -
1    Class 6 - Over 50 -
5    Class 7 - Can Am -
8    Class 8 - Le Mans Classics -
1    Class 9 - GT3 -
1    Class 10 - BRM Classics -
0    Class 11 - BRM GT -
1    Class 12 - Carrera DTM -
0    Class 13 - BRM Trans Am -
0    Class 14 - USRRC -
0    Pre-Ground Effect (PGE) Era -
0    Ground Effect Era (GFX) -
3    LMP Era (LMP) -

Current Championship would be:

  • Le Mans Classics - 8 votes (EVERYONE so far!!!)

  • Classics Div II - 7

  • Can Am - 5

  • BRM Gp C/Sportscars LMP - tie with 3

Would be interesting!!

Good news and bad news...

The Mk II is back on its feet again. 

Upon further inspection and tear down, once the tab at the end of the axle was straightened, the only thing we had needed to set up was properly re-clocking of the front axle.  During the off-course excursion, it rotated in the muffler clamps which locate it in the chassis and had the front end dragging on its descent.

Unbeknownst to him, when Jeff re-assembled the car on the hill on the day, he inverted an upright, losing about 2" of ground clearance on the right side and resulting in the car continuing to drag down the hill on its subsequent run.  Yesterday, I disassembled the car, checked the squareness and straightness of the axle (which was fine), reassembled, aligned it in the chassis, tightened it down and it was all back to good.

Back on its feet, the Mk II rolls freely again:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VWNDPaG-Tph0yud80-WrMoHKKwyUC9BOMIEkoa3UGHEPNGjWsAmQFK4Qy5RI75m037Dmn0N8grMTdYhL9jZ5AIoWeQmZFdiJuCTffKMaZJGbFmkymqfUKJfu1CIwL6Mz1jTnP8z6I4SCjNLa0USYk3WJxdy2FBCo8j7334wFAmYuavgXvJ00GqncRQvl8Gn6HxyhoiyMjdDAPmYg8sBPnEDd9__2eFtXezqaGx2f5N9SndcdhN6sRY6ADmLpovEmfRL_HV6mQJySpThnebSPej38opFtxW2e3XvxiIbkgzhaIxtmiHDCIPAZEkddEwpRxw2EN6toDrOB_GsLw2n9sttvZEebhRgz8HAVTRyDwoquo0WwPl_j9z0-vpJJknvfN4qgpmS2iwPT_utkdBhRPFZd5q8vj_2zkR-QukWgAxhjycl-eg7QgI62LzLqqXSPK9TRF33g2_7DNqdvK5zLgvgutDpYJvpzym79w3jACHr_TrN5bzVo3BVSUFKWN78i-wjwq-pqpyIxj5mdVVxRMb9iwil3_nTxJdtwyQl_qUav-F6f62DeOwAuG2C2dnOftiIxy5IU2ueCJdH6KCiCZlgeUDCvMmK_mtWOUM-ywy-tAgjKx3zrrb-V4jjCN05Qx_LDBvdwLhlq4dxYUaBhMraVcI-8FEskWWaIr2tw6Pq5zva7NRxRvdp37A=w1677-h943-no



The bad news?  That only took an hour or so for me to lazily do that by myself.  If we had kept working on it at the derby, we probably could have had the car prepped for the finals in about 20 minutes (it had actually qualified based on completing Bill's and Jeff's passes) and sent Bill down the hill in search of fame and glory.  It was a missed opportunity for us- I was too focused on making sure the Mk I and Mk V were on track for their next round.  Lesson learned.

Qualy round #2, the rear facing cam to see the push (and the rest of the competition fade away):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZnFNMvsXOg

There were some battery issues...  Unfortunately not much other interesting footage.

BEST PICTURE EVER!!!!!!!:

https://expo.advance.net/img/d040678196/width960/841_adultsoapboxderbypdx20186336.jpeg

There are snippets of the team here:

https://www.kgw.com/video/news/local/gr … 83-8224738

https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/news/er … for-2.html

I have very few pics as we were busy. Bill did end up on his side, he's OK and managed to complete his run but the car was bent.  Jeff straightened it out a bit and took a cautionary run down the hill but still had a bit of instability to it so we retired it.

Please let me know if you will be on the hill this year for the derby to help out the team.  We made shirts again and I want to make sure we have enough of them on the hill for everyone who will be helping out.  So far, I have:

Bill
Jeff
Jenny
Beau
Al
Dennis
Dick

Also, we are doing breakfast at Denny's between Stark and Washington before the event.  We'll need to be on the hill fairly early, which makes the rally time at Denny's even earlier.  We did 0515 last year and it seemed to work, so let's shoot for that again.

Please let me know if you'll be on the hill with us for race day.

Thanks in advance!!!

Chris

248

(6 replies, posted in Track)

Looks like a ton of fun!  I hope there's room for BRM's...

249

(11 replies, posted in Track)

My time is ridiculously pre-occupied through mid-Sept-ish.  I think I could make that 9/13 date work though.  Also would be happy to sneak over for unstructured play time as well, as opportunity arises.

250

(11 replies, posted in Track)

Looks like a tight and technical challenge!

Looking forward to the invite for giving it a run.