Topic: Beau Frazier's new Can-Am class
A new class starting next season at Rapid Raceway is a Lexan type true scale 1/24th. Can-Am body. This class is sponsored by Beau and rules will be posted here soon.
2 July 19, 2011 8:38 pm (edited by howieandsandy@yahoo.com July 19, 2011 8:44 pm)
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Rules for Can-Am: Bodies: 1957 to 1972. 1/24th. PETG ( recycled clear plastic bottles ) bodies only. Tom Anderson VSC and True Scale Products offer these bodies. These are true scale bodies. they are .020" to .030" thick.
Do not pancake cut these bodies, use existing cut lines, wheel wells are marked and should remain visible after cutting. Remember these are true scale bodies and should stay that way.
Chassis: Open chassis, build it, buy it, have it built. Angle winder, sidewinder, inline. A good one to buy is the
Scholer type "Tiger" from Professor Motor, they are very adjustable from one body to another. No part of the chassis can stick out from the body.
Interiors: True Scale Products, use the styrene interior trays with the hard resin driver's head available at Profesor Motor. Driver's tray must cover the entire view of the chassis.
Motor: At this point only Falcon 7 motors will be allowed. After racing for awhile this could change.
Gearing: Any pitch, ratio.
Bearings: Any bearing type.
Tech: .047" up front, .055" in back.
Axles: 1/8th. or 3/32nd.
Tires: Front, 7/8th. min. diameter, can be narrowed to wheel width and beveled and coated. The rear min. diameter is 15/16th" and can be narrowed as needed. All tires will be black and can not stick out past 1/16th." beyond body.
Wheels: The large Pro Track that we use in GT-1 is a good choice. H and R Racing has a good tire with a large rim also. Wheels must be in the center of the wheel well.
Wheel inserts are not required but it sure keeps the true scale look.
Guide flag must remain hidden behind body. No cutting of body for guide flag clearence.
Paint: Use a water based paint as lacquer based paint can make PETG plastic brittle over time.
Tamyia and Model Masters paint have a good choice of water based paint. Be sure to wash the body and lightly sand with 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper, avoid the windows. A final coat of PVA glue or acrylic clear over the painted surface helps keep everything in place during racing conditions.
Any questions on the rules need to be addressed by Beau Frazier.
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Howie & Beau, I'm looking for the PETG bodies but having trouble finding them. I looked on the True Scale Products site, but only lexan bodies were listed from what I could see. Also I could not find Tom Anderson VSC on a Google search. Can you help me out? Thanks ------------------Bill
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Couple of questions.
1.) is this the same chassis as the GT-1's?
2.) I take it GT-1 is dead?
3.) CanAm didn't didn't start until 1966 and ended for good in 1977. What bodies are acceptable prior to '66?
4.) I have a Ferrari 312PB body mounted to a Flexi chassis, would it be legal?
Rico
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5 July 20, 2011 9:50 pm (edited by howieandsandy@yahoo.com July 20, 2011 9:58 pm)
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Bill and Rico; I will post here soon the web page to go to get the bodies. This is the same brand as the GT-1 chassis but is somewhat smaller and is a better fit for these bodies which tend to be narrow. GT-1 is definately not dead, it is a very successful class and will be a big part of RR schedule. Can-Am is a class sponsored by Beau, questions concerning rules need to be addressed to him. Flexi chassis I believe would be legal, you must have a PETG body, again that is a question for Beau to answer. You can e-mail him at beaufrazier@hotmail.com. Or call him 503-473-6690
Beau's Can-Am class is the first non hard body class ever to be scheduled at RR. By the attention it is getting from a lot of racers, I am predicting it will go over very well.
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Bill- I finally found a link to Tom Anderson, the VSC stands for Vintage Slot Car and believe me it took some digging. Look here: http://home.comcast.net/~ch2a/vsc.html
I could not tell the difference between regular lexan and the PETG at True Scale either and I don't really see an advantage to using it. Especially if it is that hard to find
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Thanks Rico. I'm going to shoot Beau an email....
8 July 21, 2011 6:30 pm (edited by reek455 July 21, 2011 6:53 pm)
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After some further checking at TrueScale some bodies when you click on them list lexan or PTEG, not all bodies are available in PTEG.
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I got this email back from Beau. He is in the process of trying to get signed up here to post.
Rico's question about the chassis--- the chassis I used was a Scholer which is the same as the GT1 chassis but one size smaller. It's called the Tiger. The middle size of the three available at Professor Motor. The rules allow for any chassis to be used, production, production modified, or scatchbuilt, inline or anglewind as long as the tire dimensions are adhered to. Flexi chassis are fine but will need a little modification to obtain the desired ground clearance with the True Scale wheel size. The idea for the chassis rules was to allow as much creativity as possible for people to build that better mouse trap. The year span for the bodies is intended for three different classes that we can run with this rules package. 1) Early production sports cars '57 to around '65. 2) CanAm '66 to '72. I chose '72 mainly because of the lack of availability of bodies between '73 and '77 in the thicker .020-.030 PETG. This lets us run a variety of cars from different eras by simply changing the body. The first bodies we'll use are the CanAm '66 to '72. I realize this may all be a bit confusing, but I figured we could fine tune the rules after seeing how much interest it would receive. Looks like it might be a popular class. --------------Beau
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I forgot to mention the third body class in the CanAm rules. It will be Endurance Racers '64 to '72, closed cockpit only. If anyone locates additional sources of .020-.030 PETG bodies please let us know. The available bodies at True Scale Products in this catagory are listed as '60's style. There are only four or five choices at this time, but they are planning to add more over time. These are nice thick, high quality pieces. Some come with an interior. Rico has located the address for the bodies at Tom Andersen VSC(vintage slot cars) Thanks Rico.....Beau
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Here are some beautiful Can Am car examples built by Beau:
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Larry Cockerham sent me these photos of some cars he has built for this class:
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First race for the Can-Am cars on Nov. 19, 2011. We did not have a big turn out, but those who did had a lot of racing. We went through four times at four minute heats. The cars were just what we expected, fun and handled well. All of that out of recycled plastic bottles!! We adjourned at about 11:30pm. I'm e-mailing Bill some pictures so he can kindly put them in this page.
See ya.
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Here's the photos Howie sent me to post. Very cool cars!!!!!
15 March 28, 2014 12:05 pm (edited by howie March 28, 2014 12:08 pm)
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Beau has listed more Can-Am bodies on the Northwest True Scale site. Go to Rules/classes on: www.northwesttruescaleracers.com.
Also remember that this is an open chassis class, meaning you can build or buy one. It can be an angle winder, side winder or inline. Rules are on the Rules/classes page.
From what I am hearing, this class is going to grow in the 2015 season!
Re: Beau Frazier's new Can-Am class
New for 2015 and possibly beyond: the Can-Am class will be split for the builders and non builders. The builders have the option of building their own open chassis. For the non builders, a spec Scholer chassis. We haven't come up with a name for the two classes yet. The cars will race together but scored separate.