Re: NASTE Odd Thursday Night Racing Rules & Current Thread

ckouba wrote:
Wanabgts wrote:

I am newer to the club...

Fairly irrelevant.  You just have experience with bigger scales and certainly bring a truckload of enthusiasm to the smaller ones.

Wanabgts wrote:

...I do know any type of racing it is very hard to fix classing by excluding certain models if they truly fit the intent, since eventually the next fastest car will just be what everyone has....

This is precisely my concern as well.  Right now it's the Ford GT in the crosshairs.  It's no secret I'm somewhat of a fan.  I want to be able to race them.  If we exclude them, shall we also exclude Camaros from Trans Am?  McLarens (or whatever the "hot" car in GT3 really is) from GT3?  Slot.It McLarens from Can-Am?

What I like about our club specifically is we share with each other.  Got a car you can't figure out?  Someone will help.  Got a set up that works?  It gets shared.  Any class could become a single marque/model category if really pushed.  At one point, Classics I was the Ninco Corvette class.  Remember?  If a current top runner is cut from a class, there will be a new top runner.  To quote someone (I think), "the king/queen is dead, long live the king/queen!"


Wanabgts wrote:

Can am, I feel will be much like classic 2 going forward. Since I have developed the Slot.it cars to be at Thunderslot pace, and those cars are specifically excluded.

Agreed, and it would be a shame to have this happen.  Don't pull the rug out from under someone just because they were able to tune a car.

I do agree with Stan and think there is something to be said about the minimal modification classes.  Keep things as close to box stock (like GT3's and BRM's) and things tend to run well.  I think the mods in Le Mans are justified because the Flys start out as such turds anyway.  I wouldn't mind adding some stock classes but also really enjoy the classes we already have.

Chris

Here's my thing with "spec" racing. In other words box stock. If you limit the modifications allowed to a platform, then ultimately you just end up with a field of like cars. Just like the problem with the ford GT. Even Scalextric GT3 is basically Spec McLaren/Mercedes. This will happen with all of the classes if you really limit the mods, because some cars are just better than others based on design. Then we are all out buying more cars until we find the fastest one. 

On another note, I learned very fast in slot cars that unlike RC and 1:1 motorsports driving only gets you so far. It is nearly impossible to win with a car that is even just 2-3 tenths off the pace. So trying to make classes more "driver" oriented seems like a tough one in the long run.

I have no business winning based on my driving compared to others in the club, but my cars are good enough to make up the gap.

We could just leave classic 2 alone and make a Ford GT Lemans class as monte described....I wouldn't have any problems there. Just a shame not to race them.


Zack

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docdoom wrote:

No racing for me On Thursday. got bad news about family member. have fun all

Sorry to hear that Doc. You will be missed!

Zack

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Doc, sorry to hear that Dude. Take care my friend, and if you need anything I'm close so just let me know!

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Thanks Al for hosting another rip roaring night of racing. Thank you Zach for loaner CanAm car, it was excellent.

Rico

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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reek455 wrote:

Thanks Al for hosting another rip roaring night of racing. Thank you Zach for loaner CanAm car, it was excellent.

Rico

No problem Rico, sorry we had to do a mid race swap! I will try and get yours sorted for next time, should have plenty of time!

Thanks Al, always a great night in the basement!

Zack

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Awesome night as usual at Meat's place! I'll get the results posted tomorrow, sorry for the delay!

And..like Rico said thanks for the loaner Zack! Your Shadow Can Am car was awesome!.....me as a driver?.....not so much!

Back in the day you'd be known as "MR. Hertz"!

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docdoom wrote:
Wanabgts wrote:
reek455 wrote:

Thanks Al for hosting another rip roaring night of racing. Thank you Zach for loaner CanAm car, it was excellent.

Rico

No problem Rico, sorry we had to do a mid race swap! I will try and get yours sorted for next time, should have plenty of time!

Thanks Al, always a great night in the basement!

Zack

going have to start charging there  zack for all those speed secrets....

I enjoy the tinkering process Doc, and no one has fun when their car is struggling. Besides, the students rarely become the master faster than the master learns new tricks!

Zack

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Doc,

Nothing was discussed as far as I know.

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Results from the May 23rd race:

Can Am Class
1 Zack  81.9 Laps
2 Al 77.9
3 Jeff 76.4
4 Mitch 75.2
5 Mark 74.5
6 Bill 73.7
7 Rico 68.0
8 Greg 62.1

Over 50 Class
1 Mitch 70.8 Laps
2 Zack 66.2
3 Greg 64.0
4 Al 62.3
5 Rico 59.2
6 Mark 56.3

BRM Class
1 Rico   75.3 Laps
2 Al  72.6
3 Mitch  67.6
4 Mark  66.1
5 Zack  63.7

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Thanks for racing last night Al, and everyone else who showed up!

Zack

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Nothing like being in a nice cool basement when the weather was hot like yesterday! And on top of that having an awesome slot car track there along with friends to race with! It doesn't get much better! Great racing last night guys!

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Here's some videos of the wild BRM Group C action last night. There's nothing like racing 1/24 Group C cars on a short tight track!
https://youtu.be/7VBv4CwscfA

https://youtu.be/SfjvnBAFSSg

https://youtu.be/uiVO23-zHJQ

https://youtu.be/AluWEo6MY3U

https://youtu.be/VYPYE0PNrOQ

https://youtu.be/FQgeD9HszcQ

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Here's a few photos I took last night.

The NASTE 2019 Champion - Al Christensen
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8766.jpg

Doc tunin' before the start of the race.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8770.jpg

The F1 Class is becoming quite a popular and competitive class.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8771.jpg

F1 starting grid.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8772.jpg

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Practice session.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8774.jpg

RICO-Quit Mocking Me-CHET...
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8776.jpg

A little coaching for the new guy Josh from Resident Fast Guy Zack...
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8780.jpg

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BRM practice session.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8779.jpg

Checking the monitor for race results.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_8778.jpg

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Thanks Al, I had a good time as always. Thanks to Zach on the McLaren, I can’t believe it is the same car.

Rico

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Some cool shots in those videos Bill!

Rico, I'm glad you like it. It's a super fast car! I got another one to sort out from Doc this week...

Zack

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Results from the June 13th race:

LMP Class
1 Zack  80.6 Laps
2 Daniel 74.2
3 Al 73.6
4 Josh 72.4
5 Rico 69.1
6 Stan 66.5

F1 Class
1 Zack 75.4 Laps
2 Al 73.5
3 Rico 71.2
4 Daniel 70.5
5 Stan 64.2
6 Josh 61.5

BRM Class
1 Rico   73.9 Laps
2 Zack  72.3 - fastest lap over Al
3 Al  72.3
4 Stan  71.8
5 Chris  71.6
6 Josh 69.6

Open Class:
1 Al 81.8
2 Zack 81.1
3 Chris 78.5
4 Josh 74.3

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Thanks Al for hosting another spectacular night of racing! I can't believe how fast the cars have become but yet the competition still remains so close!

Results from the June 27th race:

Classic Sports Car Div.I Class:
1 Al  67.8 Laps
2 Daniel 66.7
3 Jeff 65.3
4 Zack 65.0
5 Bill 62.6
6 Monte 62.5
7 Greg 62.4
8 Rico 61.7
9 Stan 60.1
10 Mitch 58.5
11 Mark 55.3

Le Mans Class
1 Al 71.3 Laps
2 Rico 71.0
3 Daniel 70.9
4 Jeff 69.9
5 Mitch 67.4
6 Zack 66.7
7 Bill 66.4
8 Greg 65.6
9 Stan 61.7

BRM Class
1 Rico   75.1 Laps
2 Al 73.7
3 Daniel  72.4
4 Zack  70.3
5 Mitch  68.8

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Classic Sports Car Rules have been revised!

Check updates to both Division I & II.

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It was a great night of fun close racing. What's this nerfing thing ? Not sure what that is.

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I must have missed the conversation about the Division II revision. Whatever the majority goes with goes but for the record I think it's a mistake.

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Al, the only revision to the Div.II Class is the eligible years (revision 1965) to 1976, and the rear wheel width of 8mm matches the max. tire contact patch width (same language as used in the Div.I rules).

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wb0s wrote:

Al, the only revision to the Div.II Class is the eligible years (revision 1965) to 1976, and the rear wheel width of 8mm matches the max. tire contact patch width (same language as used in the Div.I rules).

Bill, are we going to run some kind of grace period on swapping the cars over? Just curious as next week these cars are on the schedule to be raced.

I have ordered some different wheels and tires for classic 2, but I feel in general the cars will be a little slower with a narrower wheel. So I want to know what to bring!

Zack

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That was my thinking as well Doc. We'll look for the new specs when the new season starts, probably around September or October.