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The cold, snow, and ice lowered our attendance level some today, but we still managed to get in some good racing!
Doc picked up the win in the Womp Class (results below).
In the Flexi Class it was all John Gill! (Results below).
We also welcomed a new racer Gerry, yet another racer that has saved a box of slot cars from attic seclusion!
Oops......I thought you were looking for the Hudy......
Looks like PCH has them in stock.
It's getting worse..........
Yeah, I know.....It all starts with a little web browsing........then a cool picture.............followed by an email to a friend............
........then all hell breaks loose!
1.5 mm equals .059".
.055" is the standard most 1/24 slot car groups use in our area. I would even consider .047" on lightweight 1/32 cars. For now on my track, I'm sticking with .055" as the standard for all cars.
1 mm or even 1.5 mm are odd specs for me. I can get a piece of wire in .055" or .047" to use for tech inspection.
Damage caused by hard parts coming into contact with the track surface are clearly visible on my track. Some of the evidence is years old I'm sure, but I see damage to areas I know I have repainted since the track was moved here. Some marks can't be avoided when caused by de-slots and crashes. However the indications of marks caused by gears coming in contact with the track surface when a car is lapping the circuit can be avoided. The track surface is not perfectly flat in all areas. Please check and verify the clearance you have on your cars between the lowest point of the car and the track surface! On most cars the gear will be lowest point of contact!
what class would that run in??????
TBD...
"4. 1mm min ride height"
.039", that is lower than what I am comfortable with.
So..........I saw this online:
They're back up....
I'm not sure what the hell is going on with my pics. I'll try to reload them.
Sorry you had to endure that Rico! We did some racing for you! You were here in spirit!
Don't forget, NO racing on December 20th! Next Monday racing is on December 27th.
We had a good turn out for Monday Open Track on December 13th, with 7 racers competing. We raced 3 rounds of 20 lap sprint heats to determine the Womp Class winner.....er WEENER. Everybody seems to be getting their Womps dialed in as everybody was running very close to the break-out lap time. Rob was the only one to actually break-out in any of the heat races. He actually exceeded the break-out in 3 of his heat races, which I'm sure cost him some positions overall.
Here are the Womp Race results:
1st Dave 45 points - fastest lap = 5.540 seconds
2nd Doc 39 pts. - fast lap = 5.543 sec.
3rd Bill 33 pts. - fast lap = 5.549 sec.
4th Rob 31 pts. - fast lap = 5.502 sec.
5th Brian 24 pts. - fast lap = 5.978 sec.
6th Jeff 15 pts. - fast lap = 5.665 sec.
7th Mitch 13 pts. - fast lap = 6.124 sec.
The Flexi Class race was the standard 1 round of 4 minute heat races. But four of the racers volunteered cars to be raced in an IROC style format. Here are the results of that race:
1st Bill 185 laps - fast lap = 4.395 seconds
2nd Dave 184 laps - fast lap = 4.663
3rd Doc 179 laps - fast lap = 4.660
4th Mitch 176 laps - fast lap = 4.640
5th Jeff 171 laps - fast lap = 4.647
6th Brian 170 laps - fast lap = 4.785
7th Rob 157 laps - fast lap = 4.494
Here's a few photos I took throughout the two day event:
John "TouringJohn" Gill
Terrible Tommy Street
JP
Saturday morning the doors opened at 8:00 AM. Tech inspection of the entries started by 9:00AM, and qualifications started by 9:30 AM. We had 20 entries, but we were actually on schedule.
After qualifying the grid was set for the B Main. The B Main consisted of two rounds of 4 minute heat races, or 32 minutes of racing for each racer. The winner of the B Main, and the runner up were given the option of moving up into the A Main. Due to mechanical issues suffered by Korbin, Bob Nakamura and I placed first and second and took that option which gave Gary Klein the credit for the B Main win.
Here are the results for the B Main:
1st Scary Gary Klein 358 laps
2nd Al Christensen 357 laps
3rd Korbin "Korbinator"
4th Jerry "Gearloose"
5th Bart Ouchida
6th Mitch Brooks
7th Herb McRoberts
8th Jim "Professor Fate"
The A Main consisted of four rounds of 4 minute heats, twice the duration of the B Mains. The racing was extremely close as it was in the B Main. Terrible Tommy Street fought his way to the top to win the event. Zack Morgan battled his way into second, while Stuart and John Gill suffered mechanical issues which put them further back in the field. This race was so close it was not decided until the completion of the very last lap of the very last heat race! Here are the A Main results after 64 minutes of racing:
1st Terrible Tommy Street 764 laps
2nd ProZack Morgan 763 laps
3rd Bad Billy 763 laps
4th Bob Nak Nak Nakamura 761 laps
5th Gary Tipton 754 laps
6th Stuart "Stew Meat" Wall 749 laps
7th "Fly Racing" Craig Rieland 745 laps
8th Michael Mitchell 741 laps
9th JP 739 laps
10th Courteous Curt 686 laps
DQ Touring John Gill 759 laps
DQ "DC Dynamo" Dennis Cook 516 laps
On December 11, 2021 OSCAR held a Late Model NASCAR race at Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway. The race format used was the traditional OSCAR NASCAR format with a B Main (Bush Race) and an A Main (Cup Race). This has been the race format OSACAR has used (for as long as I can remember) for their Late Model NASCAR races.
The racing starts out with a qualifying session to determine racers start positions. Based on qualifying positions, drivers are divide into A and B mains. B mains consist of the drivers in the bottom half of the qualifying positions, A main drivers are the drivers on the top half of the qualifying positions. Start positions for both the A and B mains are assigned based on driver's qualifying positions and their choice of starting position.
The winner, and in this case the runner up, in the B main were given the option of moving up into the A main. Top qualifier for this race was Stuart, or Stew Meat as we like to call him.
But let me back up a little.....Friday the track was open to practice before the race. Friday morning the track was sprayed with traction compound after it had been cleaned the day before. By Friday afternoon the shop was filled with racers getting in some practice laps and getting the track race ready. Practice ran well into the evening.
"Anything goes, if you are going for an ultimate absolute track record, right?"
Let's do it Dennis! Would be fun!
"I am definitely NOT a fan of inline, but have to follow the 50 year tradition of OSCAR"
Personally I am a sucker for tradition if you haven't noticed! I appreciate your participation Dennis!
You're right Monte, that would be the best way to compare. I just don't know that I am THAT curious or interested.........
The other thing is I have not seen where 1/24 scratchbuilt hardbody cars built like those around here are raced anywhere but here. What I've seen of other group's cars are totally different. Apples to oranges. I'd be satisfied with just some FPS numbers.
I am perfectly satisfied with the speeds of the cars we are currently racing! Our Can Am cars are about as fast as I am interested in racing. What I was really looking for was some method of comparing similar types of cars raced in different areas or on different tracks. When I see posts that talk about how fast a particular car is based on lap times at a certain track it doesn't mean anything to me. Variables such as track lap length, how technical a track is, and driver skill will all affect that lap time. And although the cars speed in feet per second does not eliminate those variables, I feel it does give me a more concrete figure to base a comparison on.
Dennis, the next time you come down please bring one of those cars with you. Let's set an absolute track record on Inslot's Checkered Flag!
Oopsss.......missed that!
Congrats to YOU Doc on that RACE win!
Congrats to Rico on the HEAT WIN!
Congrats on the WIN Rico!
NASTE 2022 Point Series Championship Race No.4 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway December 9, 2021
Race Results - Classic Sports Car Div.I Class:
1 Daniel 68.5 Laps - 8 points.
2 Zack 67.9 - 7 pts.
3 Al 67.8 - 6 pts.
4 Rico 64.9 - 5 pts.
5 Mitch 64.0 - 4 pts.
6 Greg 60.6 - 3 pts.
7 Stan 60.5 - 2 pts.
8 Jeff 60.1 - 1 pt.
Current Standings for the 2022 NASTE Point Series Championship After 4 Races:
1st - tie Al - 24 pts.
1st - tie Daniel - 24 points.
3rd Rico - 17 pts.
4th Mitch - 12 pts.
5th - tie Zack - 7 pts.
5th - tie Stan 7 pts.
5th - tie Greg - 7 pts.
8th David - 5 pts.
9th Jeff - 4 pts.
Here are the race results from the Odd Thursday Race at Rippin' Ridin' Raceway on December 9th:
Look how close the finish was in the Open Class race!
RIGHT?!!!
I've always wondered how to compare the speed of one type of car to another. For example how does the speed of our hardbody cars here in the Northwest compare to the speed of the hardbody cars they race back east? Or even how does their speed compare to Flexi cars? How does a car's performance compare from one track to another?
Here's a method I think we could use to get some idea. We have lap times available, so if we know the exact length of any given track, we can compute the average feet per second the cars are moving at. Although this number will vary depending on the track, and the driver, it will give us a good comparison of the different cars on any given track. We comparing from one track to another, the average feet per second will be an indicator of how difficult the track is, how well the car handles, and how skilled the driver is.
Here's an example. Inslot's Checkered Flag has a lap length of 81.833 feet. At the last OSCAR Late Model NASCAR race John Gill set the track record at 4.5487 seconds. Those figures equate to John's hardbody NASCAR completing a lap running at an average of 17.990 feet per second. In comparison, in the last Flex race the best lap time was a 4.5460. That Flexi had an average of 18.001 feet per second. By contrast the fastest Womp lap in the Sprint 20 race with a 5.5 second set breakout was a 5.509, for 14.854 feet per second. The differences between some types of cars may be subtle, but it stills gives an idea of which are faster.
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