Topic: Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway - Renovation

As some of you already know I have plans to complete some repairs and make some upgrades to raceway this summer. With this virus outbreak and the social distancing and the stay at home order, I have been spending quite a bit of time out in the shop. Right now I have just a couple things holding me back from starting my plan earlier than scheduled. Weather is one factor as I wanted to wait until warmer weather so I can complete some of the wood working outdoors, or at least work in the shop with the overhead door open. I still have the Columbia Gorge Championship race scheduled for late April, but the way things are looking right now with the lock down and all, completing that race may be questionable. The more time I spend in the shop the more I look at the track and think about the changes and improvements I want to make. I am getting itchy to get started.

So today I took the first steps. Since I did not build this track originally I wanted to get a more precise measurement of the lap length of the course. I used the steel tape from a broken tape measure to measure each lane. The steel tape can be inserted in the slot to get an accurate measurement of the lane's length. Previously I have used a 20 foot tape and found it to be difficult to manipulate around the course. This time I used a 6 foot tape which was much more manageable and overall no more work. The lap length of Inslot's Checkered Flag is actually 70 feet. The red lane measures out at 70 feet 3 9/16 inches. The white lane measures 70 feet 2 1/4 inches, the blue lane is 70 feet 1 3/8 inches, and the yellow lane is 70 feet 1/2 inch. That is just 3 1/16 inches of difference between the outside and inside lanes. Pretty damn close, Kirk Smith did a nice job!

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After getting the lane length measurements I was able to order new braid for the track. I ordered a 500 foot roll of 1/4 inch tinned copper braid and a 250 foot roll from Slot Car Corner. This will give me a little bit of extra braid for any future repairs. I also ordered a new router bit for cutting the recess next to the guide slot for the braid to sit in. I have a bit, but like most everything else I have I have no idea exactly where it is right now. It could be next year by the time I find it.

When I measured the lanes on this track I did something different to get a feel for how the course change I have planned will affect the whole layout. I used small pieces of tape to mark the track at each 6 foot increment. The result was pretty interesting to me as it gave me a better idea of how "equal" the lanes really are.

Here is the 6 foot tape from the tape measurer I used to place inside the slot.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2119icf.jpg

I started measuring each lane at the start finish line. I marked the end point of each 6 foot measurement with a piece of colored electrical tape. This point is approximately one foot into the banked curve, and you can see how the yellow lane already has an advantage in distance covered.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2122icf.jpg

By the center of the banked corner the yellow lane has greatly increased its advantage.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2124icf.jpg

In the right hand "dead man" curve after the bank, the lanes equal out as the yellow lanes advantage is erased. This point is 30 feet into the circuit, or just under halfway around. The first 30 feet of the circuit clearly favor the yellow lane as far as distance travelled (the preferred distance being the shortest distance).
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2126icf.jpg

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After getting the lane length measurements I was able to order new braid for the track. I ordered a 500 foot roll of 1/4 inch tinned copper braid and a 250 foot roll from Slot Car Corner. This will give me a little bit of extra braid for any future repairs. I also ordered a new router bit for cutting the recess next to the guide slot for the braid to sit in. I have a bit, but like most everything else I have I have no idea exactly where it is right now. It could be next year by the time I find it.

When I measured the lanes on this track I did something different to get a feel for how the course change I have planned will affect the whole layout. I used small pieces of tape to mark the track at each 6 foot increment. The result was pretty interesting to me as it gave me a better idea of how "equal" the lanes really are.

Here is the 6 foot tape from the tape measurer I used to place inside the slot.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2119icf.jpg

I started measuring each lane at the start finish line. I marked the end point of each 6 foot measurement with a piece of colored electrical tape. This point is approximately one foot into the banked curve, and you can see how the yellow lane already has an advantage in distance covered.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2122icf.jpg

By the center of the banked corner the yellow lane has greatly increased its advantage.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2124icf.jpg

In the right hand "dead man" curve after the bank, the lanes equal out as the yellow lanes advantage is erased. This point is 30 feet into the circuit, or just under halfway around. The first 30 feet of the circuit clearly favor the yellow lane as far as distance travelled (the preferred distance being the shortest distance).
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2126icf.jpg

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After the short straight in front of the controller/driver's stations the yellow lane starts losing ground to the red lane. It has about a half car length disadvantage by mid corner just before the underpass.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2128icf.jpg

After the underpass and into the esses the advantage the red lane has over yellow increases a bit to about a full car length.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2129icf.jpg

The red lane advantage again increases going into and through the chicane.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2131icf.jpg

The red lanes advantage disappears through the hairpin just before the main straight with the lanes being close to equal at the 66 foot mark.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2134icf.jpg

So what does all this tell me? Probably nothing......I'm sure a mathematician could explain it all to me without the need for measuring it all out. But the exercise was interesting to me seeing the increments marked out on the course. It does seem to me that using segments, or counting sections of a lap for scoring, is only equal in the respect that each racer races each lane. Technically some lanes will have a shorter distance to pick up or obtain a section marker as the sections are usually measured from the centerline of the course. In this case that is somewhat mitigated by the overpass which helps equalize the first half and second half of the course. It also illustrates to me that there can actually be quite a bit of discrepancy in the scoring of "sections" as to how far a car has travelled in any particular section, especially given the fact the car by lane designation may have travelled even a longer or shorter distance just to get into a particular section. I guess the only really accurate way of "scoring" a race is by using the system of moving a car to the next lane at the same spot where it stops at the completion of a heat.

In summation I don't think all of this really means a whole lot or even matters at all. It's just the result of me having too much idle time on my hands, although it did give me something to do for a bit, and give me something better to think about!

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Wow the lap length is within inches of mine. I've only measured the center lane and it was just a few inches under 70'.

Your looks and feels much longer. I would have guessed at least 80'.  It just shows how much visual perception can be off.

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Wow, I thought you cleaned that track.  wink

"Big Smooth"

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I usually clean the track off completely and reglue it before a race. If I leave it like this with the rubber on it it stays grippy for practice sessions.

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Bill, I measured the "sections" on my track as to where the lane lengths were equal per section; i.e., where you placed your tape markers. Each section is the same length, so there's no advantage per lane, other than the imputed difficulty of the particular curve relative to each section. It's the same as the measured distance for a lane in a track meet; you know how a start is staggered to equalize the actual distance a runner travels per lane.

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That sounds like a good remedy Stan. Although the "everybody runs the same lanes" argument does somewhat apply. I guess it boils down to just how exact do you want or need to be? Before I measured this track out in this manner I never gave it much thought. It sounds like you and I may have a similar anal type problem?..........

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Too Much Info

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

11 (edited by ckouba March 27, 2020 9:44 am)

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reek455 wrote:

Too Much Info

Yeah, what Rico said. 

Never thought I'd have to say this but...  Try not to over-think it Bill.

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It's the seclusion............

I don't always think....but when I do...........

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I always thought I would make a great Hermit. Now I'm not so sure.

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I've got a great internet connection and bi-weekly guitar lessons.  I'm good.

Ya'll stay safe and we'll see you when the conditions improve.

"Big Smooth"

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Cool stuff bill, look forward for racing on the new an improved version. Right when I just started to get the hang of the original!

Zack

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All lanes on my track are the same length by design, 66'7" there are the same number of left and right turns with the same average radius. It's fun when racers with nearly equal cars one in the red and one in the blue race. The car in the blue lane almost always gains distance at the north end of the track and the car in the red almost always gains it back at the south end. Anyway I'm overthinking and killing time here but my point is with everyone running multiple laps on all lanes the inequity of where the cars stop at the end of each heat will average out to next to nothing. We're doing well here, no cabin fever problems. I hope you all are doing well.

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Good job on the design Al! Ending up with all the lanes exactly the same is quite an accomplishment! My old TooBad track was close with only 3/4" between the outside and inside lane. It came out accidentally because I did no pre- planning of that track! It was strictly a build as I went kind of deal. I think that it was only three lanes helped. The Checkered Flag track has such different radius curves it would be difficult to make it any closer, but the lanes are pretty equal at the end and at near the halfway point.

The course revision I have planned probably won't change the equality in length between the lanes. It will only add about 10 feet to the overall lap length. My main goal is to reduce wear and tear on the "dead man" curve at the end of the banked curve section. I'm hoping this revision may also improve the flow of the course as a side benefit. We'll see..........

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Typically the very inside and outside lanes are considered the gutter lanes ... with lap penalties, but not on your track. McFarland could win on Yellow and was his favorite lane. I love RED lane!

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And so it begins. There have been three official races held on the track since it was moved here in January of 2019, one PASER race, and two OSCAR races. The track performed well with only a couple minor glitches, those being braid issues due to the age of the track. Although most of the braid is still in good shape, due to the track's age the glue securing the braid is starting to lose it's bond.

Since I started this thread in March I have been working on the shop as far as sorting and organizing slot cars, parts, and miscellaneous. Today I decided I was close enough to organized to start work on the track. I have an OSCAR race scheduled for December, so I feel it is time to get started.

Since part of my renovation plans call for new driver's stations and controller hookups, today I removed the driver's stations and disconnected the track wiring. A portion of the track will be rewired to accommodate the new driver station locations and new controller hookups.

All of the track revisions are being made to this end of the track.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2746ICF.jpg

These original controller hookups will be replaced by a set up originally designed by my friend Hugh Ellsworth in the late 80's, when he helped me with my first 1/24 track which was a major rebuild.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2749ICF.jpg

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It didn't take me long to strip off the side boards and driver's stations.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2750ICF.jpg

After I had the side boards off I disconnected the wiring from the controller hookups. I then removed all the wiring and the control board from the underside of the track table on this portion of the track.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2752ICF.jpg

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The controller hookups on the other hand were an entirely different matter! I have had a lot of different tracks through the years and I've seen all kinds of controller hookups. I would say the majority of them have been, and usually are equipped with some sort of screw or bolt set up for the controller alligator clips to connect to. This set up usually works fine but, I have seen instances where the screws or bolts in this type of set loosen causing bad electrical connections. That potential problem was addressed in this design by using what appears to be threaded rod, or extra long screws where the heads were cut off after installation. The threaded rods extend all the way through the 3 1/2" dimension of the tracks 2x4 frame, being exposed for access through holes cross-drilled through the 1 1/2" dimension of the 2x4. The threaded rods appear to have also been epoxied into place inside the holes. Needless to say these were not easy to remove!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2757ICF.jpg

I'm tellin' ya, these rods were LONG!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2758ICF.jpg

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So after 3 hours on my creeper I finally had all the threaded rods removed, and the controller hookups stripped out.

Here's my view for 3 hours...
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2761ICF.jpg

Here's those pesky rods all herded together...Each one had to be double nutted to get them out!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2763ICF.jpg

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Here's where the day ended. Driver's stations and controller hookups removed.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2764ICF.jpg

This is the hairpin turn that will be coming off next and relocated to the end of the new track extensions.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2765ICF.jpg

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Let me know if I can be of any assistance. That goes for you too Doc

Rico

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Thanks Rico, you are now on my list!