2,351

(36 replies, posted in NASTE)

One thing to consider when making up rules, is to be sure new people coming into the group can get started without a lot of extra expense and work. As we know many times new people don't have the skills developed to make changes to their cars. It is also discouraging for them to find out they not only have to buy a certain car, but they have to replace the motor it came with before they can even race it. We have seen people get discouraged and not come back for these reasons. It is one thing for the experienced racers in the group to establish rules they like, but on the other hand if you don't take into consideration what's required for new people to get into your racing program you will see a decline in membership. I've seen this happen with other clubs, and more than once. The most difficult part of maintaining a slot car racing club is acquiring new members! Acquiring new members should always be a top priority if you want the club to succeed.

2,352

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

Participation is a good thing Doc!

2,353

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

The current 1/32 F1 class has never been part of the NASTE Point Series Championship. As laid out there is no way to accurately and fairly score the finish positions and award points.

2,354

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.9 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway

Trans Am Class

1 Daniel    67.7 Laps - 9 points
2 Al    67.5 - 8 pts.
3 Mitch    66.6 - 7 pts.
4 Greg    66.0 - 6 pts.
5 Chris K.    65.2 - 5 pts.
6 Gary    64.3 - 4 pts.
7 Fernando    62.7 - 3 pts.
8 Chris Hammet    54.3 - 2 pts. 
9 Terry Redeau   49.7 - 1 pt.

Standings After 9 Races

1st - tie Al 55 pts.
1st - tie Daniel 55 Points
3rd Chris K. 49 pts.
4th Mitch 40 pts.
5th Rico 29 pts.
6th Gary 26 pts.
7th Jeff Fields 25 pts.
8th - tie Stan 18 pts.
8th - tie Greg 18 pts.
10th Monte 14 pts.
11th Fernando 12 pts.
12th - tie Jake 6 pts.
12th - tie Chris Hammett 6 pts.
14th - tie Jeff Burns 4 pts.
14th - tie Terry Redeau 4 pts.
16th tie Bill 3 pts.
17th Amy 2 pts.
18th - tie Victoria 1 pt.
18th - tie Nicki 1 pt.

Odd Thursday Night Racing March 15, 2018 -

Results:

GT3
1 Al   70.2 Laps
2 Daniel    68.4
3 Chris    67.8
4 Mitch    66.1
5 Greg   64.5
6 Terry Redeau    60.6
7 Gary   60.5
8 Fernando   60.1
9 Chris Hammet    57.4

Trans Am - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.9
1 Daniel    67.7 Laps - 9 points
2 Al    67.5 - 8 pts.
3 Mitch    66.6 - 7 pts.
4 Greg    66.0 - 6 pts.
5 Chris K.    65.2 - 5 pts.
6 Gary    64.3 - 4 pts.
7 Fernando    62.7 - 3 pts.
8 Chris Hammet    54.3 - 2 pts. 
9 Terry Redeau   49.7 - 1 pt.

Open Class
1 Chris   77.8 Laps
2 Al  76.7
3 Gary  75.6
4 Terry Redeau  71.5
5 Mitch  71.0
6 Daniel  64.1

Hmmmmmm..........Strombecker and Eldon...............I have some of those............somewhere............I think................

I'm good with the proposal.

I received this proposal from Chris Kouba and thought I would post it here for discussion:

LMP class:

I originally intended to write up some sort of class structure for the inclusion of the modern LMP cars with and without roofs, so they would fit into something similar to the GT class.  But I started getting drawn into a "Sportscar Decades" type of class, to allow all manners of hardware from similar eras to run on the track together.  There are a few cars out there which would be cool to run more but that don't have roofs.  Class rules would be copied from GT with the exception of not requiring a roof.  Eligible cars would be from each decade, starting with the 70's.  If it ran in IMSA, SCCA, FIA, Camel GT, etc... classes, it's good to go in the appropriate decade bucket.

If the decades aren't an appropriate bucket, we could look at pre-ground effects (1970-1980), ground effects (1981-1993), and LMP-era (1994-present).  We can adjust as necessary.

This gets us a place to run the 908/3's, the 917/30's, 936's, Matra's, Audi R8's, BMW LMR's, Peugeot LMP's etc... with other era-appropriate cars (both open and closed roof).  This is effectively our GT class broken into era buckets with the roof restriction removed.


Sportscar Era classes:
Pre-Ground Effect (PGE) Era - Full-fendered sportscars from 1970 through 1980 which ran in FIA, IMSA, or SCCA sanctioned events.  Any motors (22k limit), tires, driveline configuration, or chassis material may be used.  Bodies must be injection molded or resin cast and not vacuum molded.  Thunderslot brand RTR cars are NOT eligible for this class, but their driveline components (wheels, axles, gears, tires) and guide assembly may be used for tuning. 

Ground Effect Era (GFX) - Full fendered sportscars from 1981 through 1993 which ran in FIA, IMSA, or SCCA sanctioned events.  Any motors (22k limit), tires, driveline configuration, or chassis material may be used.  Bodies must be injection molded or resin cast and not vacuum molded.  Thunderslot brand RTR cars are NOT eligible for this class, but their driveline components (wheels, axles, gears, tires) and guide assembly may be used for tuning. 

LMP Era (LMP) - Full fendered sportscars from 1994 through current  which ran in FIA, IMSA, or SCCA sanctioned events.  Any motors (22k limit), tires, driveline configuration, or chassis material may be used.  Bodies must be injection molded or resin cast and not vacuum molded.  Thunderslot brand RTR cars are NOT eligible for this class, but their driveline components (wheels, axles, gears, tires) and guide assembly may be used for tuning. 




A straight up LMP (only) class would also be similar rules, FIA/IMSA/GT cars from 1994 onward, although I'd remove the motor restriction.  Try this on for size:

Any full-fendered car competing in IMSA- or FIA-based classes is legal for this class. Any motors, tires, running gear, driveline configuration, or chassis material may be used. Thunderslot brand RTR cars are NOT eligible for this class, but their driveline components (wheels, axles, gears, tires) and guide assembly may be used for tuning.


Thoughts?

2,359

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.8 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway

GT Class

1 Chris K.    80.3 Laps - 9 points
2 Al    76.6 - 8 pts.
3 Stan    71.5 - 7 pts.
4 Gary    71.4 - 6 pts.
5 Daniel    70.3 - 5 pts.
6 Rico    68.1 - 4 pts.
7 Mitch    58.2 - 3 pts. - 7.675 second fastest lap
8 Fernando    58.2 - 2 pts. - 8.123 second fastest lap
9 Chris Hammet   56.6 - 1 pt.

Standings After 8 Races

1st Al 47 pts.
2nd Daniel 46 Points
3rd Chris K. 44 pts.
4th Mitch 33 pts.
5th Rico 29 pts.
6th Jeff Fields 25 pts.
7th Gary 22 pts.
8th Stan 18 pts.
9th Monte 14 pts.
10th Greg 12 pts.
11th Fernando 9 pts.
12th Jake 6 pts.
13th tie Jeff Burns 4 pts.
13th tie Chris Hammett 4 pts.
15th tie Terry Redeau 3 pts.
15th tie Bill 3 pts.
17th Amy 2 pts.
18th tie Victoria 1 pt.
18th tie Nicki 1 pt.

Odd Thursday Night Racing March 1, 2018 -

Results:

Trans Am
1 Rico   70.5 Laps
2 Daniel    68.6
3 Chris    68.4
4 Al    64.9
5 Mitch   62.5
6 Gary    62.1
7 Stan   61.4
8 Fernando   58.6
9 Chris Hammet    54.1

GT - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.8
1 Chris K.    80.3 Laps - 9 points
2 Al    76.6 - 8 pts.
3 Stan    71.5 - 7 pts.
4 Gary    71.4 - 6 pts.
5 Daniel    70.3 - 5 pts.
6 Rico    68.1 - 4 pts.
7 Mitch    58.2 - 3 pts.  - 7.675 second fastest lap
8 Fernando    58.2 - 2 pts.  - 8.123 second fastest lap
9 Chris Hammet   56.6 - 1 pt.

Open Class
1 Chris   77.8 Laps
2 Daniel  74.0
3 Al  73.8
4 Mitch  72.9
5 Stan  71.1
6 Rico  69.1

BRM Group C
1 Chris    71.5 Laps
2 Al    69.5
3 Mitch   68.9

2,361

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

The race schedule for the remaining 2018 season has been revised. The Point Series races are the same but order of the first races of the night have changed. The third race of the night will remain BRM, but the fourth race will change to Open meaning Thunderslots or any car that might compete with them.

The NASTE calendar and the list of races here in the forum have been updated to reflect the changes.

2,362

(36 replies, posted in NASTE)

I think I now have all the NSR references eliminated. Let me know if I missed any.

=======Bill

2,363

(36 replies, posted in NASTE)

These discussions are still open for further consideration:

F1

GT

Thunderslot & NSR

2,364

(36 replies, posted in NASTE)

Thanks Monte, I see the new tab!

I'm marking the previous rule discussion threads as CLOSED to direct any new conversation to this thread. We still have some discussions open for further dialog. I will try to move those links to this thread. Sound OK?

=====Bill

We had a meeting between the preliminary race and the point series race on February 15th to conclude some of the discussions regarding rule changes to existing rules for next season. Here is a quick run down of the approved changes for the 2019 season by class. These changes will NOT go into effect until the start of the 2019 racing season which starts sometime around September of 2018 (clear as mud right?).

Can Am: Can Am and USRRC will become stand alone classes and as such raced separately. The exclusion of NSR brand cars and chassis plates removed.

Classic Sports Car Division 1: This will become a spec motor class. Division I cars will be required to use the H&R 14k motor only. Class is limited to cars replicating cars built and raced through 1967. Podded chassis will be allowed in Division I provided the chassis motor pod mounting screws are tightened AND the pod is permanently glued making the chassis compliant with the solid chassis rule. No movement or dampening is allowed between the main chassis piece and the motor pod.

Classic Sports Car Division II: This will become a spec motor class. Division II cars will be required to use the H&R 18k motor only. Class is limited to cars replicating cars built and raced through 1975.

* These rule changes posted to Official Rules on July 6, 2018

2,366

(127 replies, posted in NASTE)

Official Results - NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.7 @ Rippin' Ridin' Raceway

Classic Sports Car Div.II

1 Al  74.1 Laps - 10 pts.
2 Mitch  73.9 - 9 pts.
3 Chris  71.8 - 8 pts.
4 Rico  69.3 - 7 pts.
5 Daniel  67.1 - 6 pts.
6 Monte  63.9 - 5 pts.
7 Jeff F.  63.3 - 4 pts.
8 Bill  62.5 - 3 pts.
9 Terry R.  60.4 - 2 pts.
10 Gary  45.4 - 1 pt.

Standings After 7 Races

1st Daniel 41 Points
2nd Al 39 pts.
3rd Chris K. 35 pts.
4th Mitch 31 pts.
5th tie Jeff Fields 25 pts.
5th tie Rico 25 pts.
7th Gary 16 pts.
8th Monte 14 pts.
9th Greg 12 pts.
10th Stan 11 pts.
11th tie Fernando 6 pts.
11th tie Jake 6 pts.
13th Jeff Burns 4 pts.
14th tie Chris Hammett 3 pts.
14th tie Terry Redeau 3 pts.
14th tie Bill 3 pts.
17th Amy 2 pts.
18th tie Victoria 1 pt.
18th tie Nicki 1 pt.

Feb. 15, '18

Close racing at Rippin' Ridin' Raceway last night! The top three from the last Can Am race repeated for podium finishes with Al taking his second consecutive point series race win, and this one counts! The lead off race for the night was for the F1 Class where Doc posted the win with a one lap lead over Goose.

Thanks to Al for some excellent racing and a good supply of snacks and drinks! Thanks to all the racers that provided MORE snacks!

Results:

F1 Class
1 Daniel   69.9 laps
2 Gary  68.9
3 Monte  67.8
4 Jeff  67.5
5 Rico   66.6
6 Al  65.7
7 Amy  64.7
8 Chris  60.4
9 Jake  58.9
10 Mitch  58.0
11 Bill  57.2
12 Terry R.  55.6

Classic Sports Car Div.II - Official NASTE 2018 Point Series Championship Race No.7
1 Al  74.1 Laps - 10 pts.
2 Mitch  73.9 - 9 pts.
3 Chris  71.8 - 8 pts.
4 Rico  69.3 - 7 pts.
5 Daniel  67.1 - 6 pts.
6 Monte  63.9 - 5 pts.
7 Jeff F.  63.3 - 4 pts.
8 Bill  62.5 - 3 pts.
9 Terry R.  60.4 - 2 pts.
10 Gary  45.4 - 1 pt.

2,368

(15 replies, posted in Cars)

Thanks for the vinyl top story Todd!

Hope all's well in the Eugene area! Say Hi to all the racers for me!

2,369

(15 replies, posted in Cars)

Looks great Todd!

Let's hear the vinyl top story!

=====Bill

2,370

(5 replies, posted in Cars)

I had a 908 1/24 body that I looked into racing in Howie's Can Am class at rapid Raceway. I did some research and found that 908/02s were in fact configured and prepared to race in Can Am. I don't remember all the specifics.

2,371

(17 replies, posted in Events)

...............CRAP..............

2,372

(17 replies, posted in Events)

I HAVE SCALEXTRIC METROs....LOTS of them!!!!!................................somewhere...............

2,373

(91 replies, posted in Race Rules)

So true Stan. Their beauty is in the eyes of the bewildered........or blind.........or something along those lines............

2,374

(91 replies, posted in Race Rules)

Stan, as far as I can tell from your description your Panoz would be legal for the GT class with the Olifer chassis. Pretty much anything goes in the current GT class except Thunderslots.

2,375

(5 replies, posted in Cars)

I agree Monte. I would say the Open classes would still have some rules, just less restrictive. Maybe nothing more than motor/power limits?