That's funny, a lot of them look like kid's toys to me! I'm looking forward to trying to make "racers" out of them...... I always tell the guys at work; "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit"........... we'll see. ---------------------Bill
5,777 September 11, 2008 4:49 pm
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Definately not an exact science. Mostly just an idea if the motor is sluggish or not, and a rough idea of how high it revs. The current draw gives me an idea of hhow "hot" the arm is. I've compared enough motors in and out of cars to get a "gut feeling" as Rico put it. That's really all I need or care about. The real proof or test is in putting the motor in a chassis and running it, trying a couple different gear sets. But I can tell you, even with just a "free running" bench test, these motors will blow the doors off my Radioshack motors!!! And they do look like they will run cooler than the Slot.It motors. --------------------Bill
5,778 September 11, 2008 12:57 pm
Re: Jiada Slot Cars (11 replies, posted in Cars)
I had ordered two from an Ebay seller. My plan was to try them out as potentila IRCO cars. After reading the review I went ahead and ordered four more. These things are CHEAP, and NASTE needs a set of IROC cars to run at Kimm's 1/32 routed track in Eugene. I'll try them out when they arrive to see if they are suitable. I'll keep ya'll posted. ------------------------Bill
5,779 September 9, 2008 8:39 pm
Re: New OSCAR website is up! (2 replies, posted in OSCAR)
Anybody know what's going on with the OSCAR website? ---------Bill
5,780 September 9, 2008 8:38 pm
Re: Chassis building (2 replies, posted in Modifications)
Message is off to Bob...... -----------------Bill
5,781 September 9, 2008 8:35 pm
Re: Chassis building (2 replies, posted in Modifications)
Oh CRAP.....sorry Rico, I forgot all about it. I'll send Bob an email right now...... --------------Bill
5,782 September 9, 2008 8:33 pm
Re: Jiada Slot Cars (11 replies, posted in Cars)
Oops, I'll let you guys know in a week or so..............first hand.............hey, at least they were cheap! ------Bill
5,783 September 9, 2008 1:30 pm
Topic: Jiada Slot Cars (11 replies, posted in Cars)
Anybody tried out the Jiada 1/32 cars? -------------Bill
5,784 September 9, 2008 9:46 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Rico, You have correctly deciphered what I was trying to communicate! Yes, they are 90 degrees out of position. And like you I figure for the price, as long as they run! -------------------------Bill
5,785 September 9, 2008 7:54 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
I have not tried to correct the installation. The motors are cheap enough I've never felt it was worth the effort....... ------Bill
5,786 September 9, 2008 7:52 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Rico, Yes the brushes do have a concave area on the ends where it appears they should make contact with the commutator. Instead of the concave area running parallel to the commutator it is perpendicular. It seems to me you would have more surface area and better contact if the brushes were installed with the concave area contacting the commutator (one large contact point - versus two small contact point on each brush). When you install the brushes on 16D motors you install them with the brush concave area parallel to the commutator. Then you run the motor at low RPM to seat the brushes properly. It also seems the way these motors come from the factory the commutators will wear more rapidly with two grooves developing. The Radio Shack motor brushes are installed in a skewed manner also. ----------------------Bill
5,787 September 9, 2008 6:48 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
I don't have any way of measuring torque. I just watch the current draw while I "ramp up" the motor. It's not very accurate but it gives a little info. If you look at the end of the brushes the concave end is turned 90 degrees to the commutator, which has the brushes contacting the commutator on the tips versus the concave surface. I have seen them installed that way on inexpensive motors before. So I was just wondering if it is a mistake? It looks like it. I'm thinking there would probably be less drag, but it seems to me the commutator and brushes would wear more rapidly. Oh well I'm pretty sure in China where they're built they really don't care one way or another! ---------------------Bill
5,788 September 8, 2008 5:04 pm
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Got my $4.99 motors today. Haven't installed one in a car, just bench tested one. Draws .25 amp at initial start up at 12 volts. Current draw is negligible when it is up to speed, and it winds up instantly. Seems to have good torque and quick response. The motor is very well vented, much better than the Slot.It motors! It also has a very good inspection "window" in the endbell allowing you to view the brushes and spring/arms. Interesting how the brushes are installed on the arms. I've seen this before and can't help to wonder if it's a mistake?! --------------------------Bill
5,789 September 6, 2008 8:06 pm
Re: What next? (34 replies, posted in BSCC)
Well the good news is Randy has a great bunch of people racing at his place and I'm sure whatever you guys settle on will present some exciting racing! ----------------------Bill
5,790 September 6, 2008 3:53 pm
Re: What next? (34 replies, posted in BSCC)
What are the real reasons for going to an IROC format? I agree with George about the IROC format levelling the playing field. It is a good way to ensure the equality of the equipment. So is the other consideration of IROC at BSCC actually cost? If so why not use cars that cost less than $50 each? There are many to chose from! --------------------Bill
5,791 September 5, 2008 4:55 pm
Re: What next? (34 replies, posted in BSCC)
I saw the email from Randy with the news about the IROC series for the winter season at BSCC. I have become an infrequent racer at BSCC and I realize I probably don't have a good feel for the group, however it seems to me the racers I see at BSCC seem to have an interest in racing their own cars on the larger Marshall Field track. The cost for the IROC series is too high for me as an infrequent racer. It seems to me it will also discourage new racers who may be interested in racing after the season begins. After promoting IROC races I have found they work well to attract new racers who have not raced slot cars before, or racers who race other types or scales of cars. Slot car IROC races serve well as introductions to other possibilities. Experienced racers tend to like to race their own cars because they like to build and tune as well as race (pride of ownership maybe). As far as equal competition I don't see IROC as being the ultimate answer. I've promoted and raced conventional races as well as IROC races and I have not seen any dramatic shuffles in the finish positions. The fast guys still win in either format. Racers become better racers by running the same equipment (cars & controllers). Being familiar with your equipment, thus eliminating variables, is a better way of improving your skills. As far as equal equipment that's what the rules need to ensure. Well defined simple rules, and a good technical inspection can provide for parity of equipment. Incentives such as a "claiming" rule, drawing motors from a pool, or even lap time "brackets" can equalize equipment performance. Don't get me wrong, I think IROC races are fun. But for the BSCC group I'm not sure a whole season of racing the same cars on the same track is the answer. It sure was not the hot topic for most of the posts here. ---------------------------------Bill
5,792 September 4, 2008 3:07 pm
Topic: SCX 1/43 cars (10 replies, posted in Cars)
Hey, anybody tried out any of these 1/43 SCX cars? I just got a two pack of "Tuner" cars for less than $15 shipped! They are UG-LY, but they run great on my 1/32 scale Scalextric track. Not extremely fast, but not bad! I like the "CHEAP" part of the formula! Might have to try the chassis under a small 1/32 body.... ---------------Bill
5,793 September 4, 2008 1:24 pm
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Styrene doesn't give you splinters!...........But with the sticks you get to eat the popsicle while you plan your car! -------Bill
5,794 September 4, 2008 6:35 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Rico, The popsicle stick chassis? I like it! I have a bunch of cheap Eldon and Strombecker bodies we could use.... ----------Bill
5,795 September 3, 2008 7:58 pm
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Hey guys, that's six for sure in our hands.........I feel a class coming on! ---------Bill
5,796 September 3, 2008 7:57 pm
Re: Slot Racing in Portland (1 replies, posted in Events)
Great stuff Rico! -----------------Bill
5,797 September 3, 2008 4:35 pm
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Hey George, I didn't read your second posting before I got all excited and purchased four of those motors.....oh well, I guess the $7 for shipping won't kill me...... Thanks for the tip! Even with the shipping that's a good deal! -------------------------Bill
5,798 September 3, 2008 11:23 am
Re: Slot.it woes (28 replies, posted in Cars)
Monte has a good point. We're running these motors awfully hot with the excessive downforce we are using at Randy's!
5,799 August 31, 2008 9:16 pm
Re: Garage Sale Ramblings................ (4 replies, posted in Track)
WAY TO GO AJ!!!! You make us proud!!!! -------------------Bill
5,800 August 30, 2008 9:07 pm
Topic: Garage Sale Ramblings................ (4 replies, posted in Track)
Today was a good day on the garage sale trail. Right off the bat I found a halogen desk lamp for $5 to replace the one that was my favorite, that is still inop after the new $8 bulb. Our second stop netted a like new furniture dolly for another $5 (you can never have too many rolling platforms!). A few "dud" stops it was the find of the day. Very rarely do I ever find slot car stuff. Today I did. It wasn't great, just some fairly usual HO stuff, but the find itself was somewhat unusual. So I thought I'd share the story. Normally when I find any slot car stuff, it's crammed back into the torn up, broken down box it originally came in. I'm really not even sure why I caught this find. As I walked up the driveway, off to the side was an old suitecase. Let me clarify that, an old crusty dirty suitecase. The suitecase was half open with a plastic supermarket bag full of something sitting on top. For some reason I decided to take a look. Under the plastic bag of stuff was some Aurora A/FX track. It actually looked very clean and unbroken, what I saw of it anyway. A little closer look and.....the usual, no cars. I moved the bag and there behind it was a small old metal recipe box with a paper label masking taped to the top that read "cars". Cool! I opened up the box to find a Tyco HO van body, and an old Tyco body of some sort that had been painted.....yucky! The masking tape price label said $20. No thanks. So I put it down and continued up the driveway. On one of the tables I found some really great clear plastic containers with attached snap on lids. For you guys that know me and have seen my work bench, I get a lot of projects all going at the same time...BIG MESS! These containers were the perfect size for holding each of my current project cars and their respective parts. Thus keeping those parts separated and orderly, until all construction is finished. $3 and I had enough for all my current projects and room for some more! So, down the driveway and past that suitecase again....I'm feelin' pretty good about my finds......that suitecase is callin' to me. OK, I think to myself, I can probably get $10 for that old Aurora A/FX track on Ebay......maybe. Oh well what the heck. I ask the lady if she'll take $10 for all the stuff in the suitecase. She says its not hers, but she'll go ask. Out into the garage comes a guy, probably 10 or so years younger than me. I ask him if he'll take the $10. He pauses like he's planning to say "no", but he says ok. So I grad the stinky old suitecase and throw it in the Toaster (much to my wife's dismay!).
When I got home and started going through the suitecase I found an old music box jewelery box. Inside the jewelery box there was Aurora HO car parts and some bodies. Again nothing great, but a lot of parts, and some common bodies. Probably 10 or so cars total. All of the track, a stack of 9" curves (of course), and a short stack of 15" straights is in excellent condition (not even any broken "tabs" on the ends of the track pieces). There were "wall wort" power packs and controllers. It looks like there were two complete sets at one time. In the bottom of the suitecase was a well-worn, but complete "Golden Gate Bridge" track accessory. You old HO guys remember these from the Aurora HO racing sets. Some came with the cardboard Golden Gate Bridge you could use to hold up your overpass section. So then I dug through the plasrtic bag of stuff. In with a lot of GI Joe clothes, some kind of cowboy doll clothes, some plastic doll cowboy guns and doll camping stuff, and some crummy HO scale die-cast cars, I found 4 complete A/FX Magnatraction cars., and a couple more bodies. Again common stuff, but hey...............It reminded me of the old days when I used to enjoy collecting and hunting for slot cars and track. Those were the days!!! Now days? Well nothin' I can use for racin'. I'll save one thing from the find, just to remind me..............the rest? Ebay, what else? ---------------------------Bill