Rico, I'll show you my water heater technique!!!! A little flick here, a little squeeze there, and wha-la....we got serious air!!!! ............but, evidently I missed the garage door approach! -----------------------Bill
5,552 November 14, 2008 9:44 am
Topic: NASTE Thursdays (41 replies, posted in NASTE)
Hey Bryan, Thanks for the track time last night! I had a great time! I'm looking forward to more of these NASTE Thursdays! Next one's at Monte's on December 4th. We'll set up a car pool from our side of town. -------------------Bill
5,553 November 10, 2008 6:36 pm
Re: Cape Horn Speedway (7 replies, posted in Track)
We had a great time with you guys up at Cape Horn on the 8th!!! Looking forward to more racing with you guys!!! Maybe we should have an annual FLEXI KILL!!!! What a HOOT!!! -------------Bill
5,554 November 10, 2008 6:34 pm
Re: 1/24 IROC for NASTE races (17 replies, posted in Cars)
Well the NASCAR flexis made it through another race! This time we KILLED one, but there were no other problems. Two of the seven handled like crap, but oh well, they handled like crap for everybody! These things were a lot of fun on the Cape Horn 6 lane track with it's narrow lane spacing!!! -----------------------Bill
5,555 November 9, 2008 8:53 am
Topic: NASTE Race at Cape Horn (2 replies, posted in NASTE)
Man did I have a great time yesterday at Cape Horn! The action was fast on the six lane 1/24 track, and the atmosphere was casual and fun! We only killed one car! Those NASCAR 4 1/2 inch flexis are pretty tough! This was the third race they've made it through. Thanks Rick for a really fun race!........and the pizza and snacks (that nacho cheese dip was most excellent!)!!! ----------------Bill
P.S. Larry, tell Lynette thanks for the cookies! They were delicious (as always!)!!
5,556 November 8, 2008 7:46 am
Re: New 1/24 Track Soon... (10 replies, posted in Track)
We are planning to race the crap out of that track!!!!!! It's a great track!!!! ---------------Bill
5,557 November 8, 2008 7:42 am
Re: Carrera Aston Martin Vanquish (3 replies, posted in Cars)
Thank you carlyse_09! It's great to have your interest! I like to post the projects I'm working on. The only real problem is I've been quite lazy lately and haven't gotten much done!!! ---------------------Bill
5,558 November 7, 2008 8:46 pm
Re: Cars of the 2008 Summer Season (18 replies, posted in BSCC)
You're right about it being tough to do the low dollar mods using only Slot.It parts. To me that was one rule that handi-capped low dollar mods. None of the Slot.It parts are low dollar! But there are alternative parts that could have been used. Two things dampened that line of thought, 1) the rules allowed modifications as approved by the membership. So, you could take a chance with a modification hoping the membership would in turn "allow" it (big chance!). 2) The class series was not long enough to allow a great deal of time to develope modifications. Buying a better/faster bolt-on mod was more effective in the time sensitive aspect.
As far as your R&D skills, they appear to be pretty sharp to me!!! ......and oh by the way, nice job on your pit skills during Howie's OSCAR 962 Enduro!!!!
5,559 November 7, 2008 5:09 pm
Re: Motor sizes and racing classes (5 replies, posted in Cars)
Yes. The wing cars are unbelievable! I wonder how commercial tracks survive in the other areas of the country?
5,560 November 7, 2008 4:14 pm
Re: Motor sizes and racing classes (5 replies, posted in Cars)
You're welcome Rico.
I'm pretty much out of touch as far as "commercial" racing goes. I'm pretty sure Group 12 is still popular because that's what most RTR flexi cars fall under. Other than that I'm not sure what's currently being raced, or where. Wing cars seem to be popular to some degree at most tracks from what I've seen and read. It might just depend on what a particular commercial track's patrons are interested in?
So, anybody out there want to tell us what they race at their local commercial tracks?
5,561 November 7, 2008 2:54 pm
Re: Motor sizes and racing classes (5 replies, posted in Cars)
I'll take a stab here Rico. Years ago the standard of motors used for slot cars was a 36D. They were BIG, like the size of the Radioshack motors NASTE uses. They were replaced by 26Ds which were slightly smaller and more powerful. They are no longer produced. These were also even smaller motors close in size to the current 16D motors. The main difference between 16Ds and the super 16Ds is the supers have balanced armatures. The Falcon, Plafit, Cheetah series motors are even smaller than the 16Ds, but less serviceable. Each of the motor designations have a specific size and wind of wire on their armatures.
Here's some more info taken from:
History of Slot Car Racing....
The Short Story - by John Ford - johnford@slotmail.org
Scale Auto Racing News Magazine - http://www.scaleautoracing.com
Reference credits to: Rocky Russo, the late Jose Rodriguez, Phillippe de Lespinay, Dieter Bollinger.
"Revell and Russkit started improving the Mabuchi 16D, the literal ancestor to the motor in every slot car today; and they started importing the 36D. This was the same motor but much larger. The 16D motor was 16 millimeters high; the 36D was 24 millimeters high. I have no idea where the 36D part came from.The 36D was the weapon of choice on the commercial tracks for the next couple years. It was much cheaper, made similar power, and displaced the railroad motors on the commercial tracks. The smaller 16D was the motor of choice for the 1/24 racers building skinny Formula 1 racers of the period."
"In early 1969, Dynamic, long the standard in Formula III/Group 12 racing came out with a new car. The chassis was stamped out of brass and it was an ANGLE WINDER. This was the car that made "Group Racing" practical. It handled nearly as well as the scratchbuilt. It came with a 16D motor, good magnets, and #30 single wind armature very much like the one found today in the modern day ready to run slot car."
"Mabuchi came out with a new size motor, the 26D that was an attempt to compromise between the torque of the 36D and the speed of the 16D. But so many builders were working on 16D's, that the 26D proved to be a dead end."
"At the same time the manufacturers got together and agreed to limited class racing. The Classes? Group 12, Group 15, Group 20, Group 7 (open). For the first time, a racer could buy an off the shelf car, travel anywhere and be legal.
The classifications were set up like this. A group 12 ready to run car would cost no more than 12 dollars, a group 15 would cost no more than 15 dollars, a group 20 would sell for no more than 20 dollars, and the group 7 was named after the popular
Can-Am Group 7 class in 1 to 1 scale sports car racing. Just like its namesake, it was an "Open" class, meaning that as long as the size restraints were adhered to, there was no restrictions."
5,562 November 7, 2008 7:13 am
Re: HO Slot racing................... (15 replies, posted in Track)
The Thursday night rotation sounds great to me, I'm in! -------------------Bill
5,563 November 3, 2008 3:07 pm
Re: Chassis Building Classes (8 replies, posted in Cars)
Racers, Bob has a "Pit Area" forum on the OSCAR website. I posted a message asking him if he had any updated info regarding chassis building classes. You can keep tabs here: http://oregonmodelracing.com/oscar_foru … 4&t=39 ------------------------Bill
5,564 November 3, 2008 11:06 am
Re: Cars of the 2008 Summer Season (18 replies, posted in BSCC)
So here's my views of the BSCC summer season. The cars were extremely fast! By the end of the season everyone had really fast cars! Yes, the majority of the cars were the Ferrari 312s, but that's to be expected when a class is based on RTR type production cars. When one particular car shows dominate performance, racers will migrate to that particular style of car (if they want to improve their chances winning). The cost of the cars was high. Well no kidding! You're starting out with a car that costs $40 to $50, and the rules allow modifications. Modifications = $ ! When the rules specify only a specific brand of parts for those modifications, modifications = $ X 2 ! The basic rule of thought is; if JOE used part A in his modification and it worked, then I need part A to keep up with JOE. What I did not see was a lot of low dollar modifications and R&D. I did not actively participate in the series. The main thing that turned me off was the destruction of the cars. I have a hard time destroying my $50 cars. The only thing worth anything on these 1/32 cars is the bodies, and for the most part you can't replace a body without purchasing a whole new car (because the chassis are specific to each car, so now after damage it's a $100 car). I think racing cars where replacement bodies are available would be an improvement in a program where damage is inevitable. In the end the fastest guy won the series, and without a lot of extra expense to his car. A lot of expensive cars were broken. And Art looked like the most improved racer to me! Congrats ART!!! -------------------------------Bill
5,565 November 3, 2008 8:30 am
Re: NASTE '08 Halloween Race (5 replies, posted in NASTE)
Oh well Rico, I'm sure you'll have a good time there!..............and there's still more racin' to come! Randy's startin' up again on Tuesday. ------------------Bill
5,566 November 2, 2008 4:40 pm
Re: NASTE '08 Halloween Race (5 replies, posted in NASTE)
It was a lot of fun Rico. But don't fret, ther's still a lot of great racing left this season! There is racing goin' on EVERYWHERE!!!!
5,567 November 2, 2008 10:14 am
Topic: NASTE '08 Halloween Race (5 replies, posted in NASTE)
Jeff & Cathy, Thanks for a great night at your new Hemi Heights Raceway Park! The treats, pizza, and racing were great! The cars and competetors were as scarey as any past Halloween! You are the Halloween King! It's great to have you back on the NASTE circuit! Your track made the move from Carlton without mishap, and you've done an excellent job with it's reconstruction. Looking forward to many more races on your new 1/24 track! -----------------------Bill
5,568 November 2, 2008 10:10 am
Re: New 1/24 Track Soon... (10 replies, posted in Track)
Well it's official, Jeff's Hemi Heights Raceway Park is now OPEN!!!! It seems only fitting the NASTE Halloween Race would be the inaugural event for Jeff's new track. And a great event it was! Thanks Jeff for all your work! Looking forward to many more races at Hemi Heights! -----------------Bill
5,569 October 23, 2008 10:03 am
Re: Carrera Aston Martin Vanquish (3 replies, posted in Cars)
Here's some photos of the Aston so far:
5,570 October 23, 2008 9:53 am
Re: Carrera Aston Martin Vanquish (3 replies, posted in Cars)
Been working on one of the Carrera Aston Martin Vanquish cars to be used as an IROC car. I've replaced the full interior with a thin piece of card stock (actually the backing from a Wynns sticker - thanks Rico these work great - perfect size!). These bodies sit very high on the chassis. I cut 1/16th of an inch off each of the body mounting posts, front and rear. To complete the lowering of the body, the front grill must be cut free from the chassis. I did this with a razor knife. This effectively lowered the body onto the chassis, without the need to enlarge the wheelwells (some grinding was necessary to the inside lips of the rear wheelwells for tire clearance). The bodies could be lowered even more, but it would require the radiusing of the wheelwells. Although 1/16" isn't much of a lowering job, it did seem to improve the cars handling even more. I'll be testing this car out tonight on a 1/32 wood routed non-magnetic track. More to follow. ---------------Bill
5,571 October 23, 2008 9:33 am
Re: Jiada Slot Cars (11 replies, posted in Cars)
Tested the Jiada F1 cars on a wood routed, non-magnetic track (Bob's Checkered Flag 1/24 track). They actually worked better than I thougth they would. But, they're very slow on a big track like that. Tonight I'll try one out on a 1/32 routed track again with no magnetic traction. I still have some modifications I want to try out. I found the Scalextric guide flag fits perfectly, once you grind off the little stops on either side, of the front of the guide flag mount. With the Scalextric (blue) guide flag installed, the front tire diameters will need to be reduced to get the flag closer to the track. More to follow....................... -------------------Bill
5,572 October 20, 2008 1:15 pm
Re: Cape Horn Speedway Fall Enduro (1 replies, posted in Track)
Hey Rick, I'm really sorry I couldn't make the enduro. Just too much going on right now. It sounds like it was an excellent event! We're looking forward to the NASTE IROC race on the 8th! See you then! -----------------------Bill
5,573 October 18, 2008 7:15 pm
Re: New 1/24 Track Soon... (10 replies, posted in Track)
Went over to Jeff's to work on his track today. We started at 8:00am and worked until 3:30pm or so. We got the whole track up on it's legs and bolted together. It looks great, and Jeff did a great job on the room! Jeff is going to have one nice facility for slot car racers!
---------------------------------Bill
5,574 October 13, 2008 7:20 pm
Re: New 1/24 Track Soon... (10 replies, posted in Track)
Just got off the phone with Jeff. His slot car room is sheetrocked, painted, and carpetted. Track assembly starts this Saturday!!!! ---------------------Bill
5,575 October 12, 2008 8:45 pm
Topic: New track at BSCC (0 replies, posted in BSCC)
Congrats Randy & Byron on getting your new layout up and running! Let's see some new photos!!! -------------------Bill