The NASTE Forum — Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:08:47 +0000

I think this should work well but I propose a higher RPM motor for the later cars, say 18K. These cars were faster in 1:1 and should reamin so in 1/32. I have cars for both classes so I'm ready to go. However, I may not be able to make it on Thursday due to soccer practice duty. I will try to work something out, practice is from 6-7. I could just be fashionably late.....

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (wb0s) — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:42:35 +0000

It seems we have enough interest in these cars to take this someplace now.

I agree Monte, probably two classes. How many cars fit into the class represented by Scalextric Legends F1 Set? "Goose" has a couple of these cars re-motored and dialed in. It looks to me the two in Rico's photo would qualify?

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (kidvolt) — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:53:44 +0000

The more I think about this the more I come to the conclusion that two classes will be the best choice.

The first class will be for pre-64 cars using spec BWA motors and tires no wider than a typical Ninco Classic. The second class will be for more modern F1 cars like the Scaley legends set and probably some Fly cars and a few others. I'm probably going to start this as a secondary class on First Sundays. I should soon have enough Cartrix to field a complete race. Swapping them to the BWA motor. I'll keep you posted on progress. The test case is going to Bill's Thursday night, come give it a try if you like.

And to get in the spirit...

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (wb0s) — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 05:40:51 +0000

You got me..............I'm not sure what they are!!!??????????

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 05:21:30 +0000

Here's some pics of the F1 cars we were talking about:

I guess they do both have the brass chassis, I didn't think the white one did.

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:15:47 +0000

I managed to get the motor swapped for a BWA NC-1 without too much trouble. I will bring it to Bill's on Thursday.

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Mon, 29 Jul 2013 04:50:26 +0000

Question regarding the motors for the vintage F1 class. I have a Scalextric Ferrari 375 with a front mounted FC-130 Mabuchi motor. What BWA motor are you guys thinking? I believe the current stock motor is an 18K but it feels pretty wimpy. It may or may not be easy to transter the drive shaft to a new motor without damaging it. Thoughts???

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (kidvolt) — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:27:46 +0000

Howdy Joel. We're still working our way through this class. Nothing has been started race-wise yet.

Yet...

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (1/32 slotter) — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:33:35 +0000

hello= 1st post. Is the race still on? Sounds like fun.
Late= Joel

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (wb0s) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:25:19 +0000

If there are enough racers interested in the F1 cars, what about running two classes at once. As Rico suggested pre '64 or '65 (skinny tired cars) and post '64 or '65 (wide tired cars). We could race them together (which maybe kind of interesting) but score the points separately for each class or division. Racers could decide which type of car they would like to race. We could allow racers to race each type of car at each race if they so desire, or limit it to each racer racing only one type of car per race. Racers could race one type at one race and other type at the next race if they chose to. Racers could develope strategy as to what car they ran at which race. There are many options as to how the races could be run to include the different types of F1 cars. ---------------Bill

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (kidvolt) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:50:17 +0000

Perhaps I should just supply spec tires for the series. We could have Urethane "Cobra" rears and Urethane "Classic" fronts. If a Ninco Classic fits your wheel, then these will work. Or you can choose to run "Classic" tires on all four if you don't like the look of a wider rear tire.

I'll have plenty of tires if someone needs extras or thinks they got a bad set.

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000

I guess what I'm trying to say is that 1950-1969 is too big of a spread, the cars changed dramatically during that period. The change started with the rear engine revolution, but tire size didn't catch up until the mid 60's along with the increase in engine displacement from 1.5 to 3.0 liters. Of course, limiting the the year range eliminates my choice of car, but I think it would be for the betterment of the series. It is your series and I will leave you with the decision.

Rico

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (kidvolt) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:31:06 +0000

Ok, one or the other?

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (reek455) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:20:14 +0000

As much as it pains me to say this, maybe you should make the year cut off around 1964-5. After those years, tires got bigger and the cars got faster.

Rico

Re: Gran Prix Cars in the spirit of Nuvolari

null@example.com (wb0s) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:33:56 +0000

The only problem I can see with that is my Cooper in non-magnetic configuration will probably not be competitive with the newer F1 cars like the Eagle. I think we need to do some experimenting to verify the competitiveness of the different cars. Wider tires equal more grip no matter how you look at it. -------------------Bill