1 (edited by docdoom September 12, 2022 8:07 am)

Topic: 2023 naste championship

Well, the next season is just around the corner, and we need to talk about what we want to race for classes.
these last Thursday it was brought up that most guys are not that thrilled racing the ta car in their current rule package and discussed that it would be nice to either have scratch brass class or go with a 3d chassis and pod set up.
I think keep the rules simple and easy build. 
BRASS AM CLASS RULES
1. chassis inline only
2. spec motor. 18k
3. stock body and glass lexan interior
4. 8mm tires and paul gage pg tires or rubber we can decide with a vote
5. open gearing open tuning build the chassis any way you want just has to be inline
6. 1965 to 1974 cars that ran in trans am

3D TRANS AM RULEs
same ass brass am chassis can be any 3d printed chassis
I suggested that we could have two trans am classes. 1st 4 rounds with old rules and the next 4 with the new cars, that would give guys a chance to build and tune if we do decide to go down this path.
Another class that was brought up was a revoslot gt class.
these are great cars right out of the box and would be a easy class to spec out and run.
rules would be very simple
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1. only gt revo cars
2. must only use revoslot parts including tires, tires can be glued, and trued front tires can be coated.
3. have fun. that's it.
well, that 3 possible classes that we can run. put your two or 4 cents in one what you want to run.or what you do not want to run..

The secondnidator

2 (edited by Mitch58 August 28, 2022 5:38 am)

Re: 2023 naste championship

Sounds like a good start Doc. In the Trans Am I'd let the brass and 3D cars run together as one doesn't have much of an advantage over the other, at least not one I've been able to find. Some guys have no interest or means to work with brass, whereas 3D seems to be the next big innovation in the hobby and the ones I've build run as smooth as an NSR or Slot It the only difference being the heavier body.
  As far as the Revoslot cars they make GT and GT1/LMP era cars all with the same motor and performance. I can see keeping them separated based on styling, the GTI/LMP can be tuned to run as a close competitor in our existing LMP class.
  Revoslot is also producing a group of Classic sports cars, Alfa, Escort and BMW 2002.  I have an Alfa That I never intended to race that I tuned to the classic ll spec as that is what I like the most on my track. It turns out that it can run the exact same lap times as my other Classic ll cars without coming out of the slot, So it may get some racing after all.  So this new line will already have a home.
I think I'd leave F1 alone as basically an "Open Wheel" class, guys and build and bring whatever their favorite era cars they want. I've taken old Scalextric (indy) cars that have C130 can motors and made them as fast as my NSR. I can't drive it like that for 26 laps, but a better driver just might.

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3 (edited by docdoom August 28, 2022 6:29 pm)

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I spent a few moments and swapped out the 21.5k motors I had in mt brass am and 3d printed trans am cars and will have them at the track These upcoming odd Thursday.  if anybody want to take one for a spin both have predator 18 k motors in them. brass am As Paul Gage tires and the 3d also has  pg tires.

The secondnidator

4 (edited by Mitch58 August 29, 2022 1:04 pm)

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Me too.

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From the corner which hasn't been racing in forever...

Why limit the scratch build to brass and 3d prints.  What if I scratched up a styrene chassis and fitted a pod to it?

I would like to see a place for the Revo's.  They should fit into the LMP class for both the GT and their GT1/LMP cars (based on years, I think), and I love the idea of them being set up for Classics II competition.

CK

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Sure why not. I have tried that before myself. Ended up it being more brass that styrene. I thought it be easy for some one print or buy a chassis and go racing . And there are enough of us that can build a brass chassis  rather easily.

The secondnidator

7 (edited by Mitch58 August 31, 2022 6:11 am)

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We just started talking about this, by "Scratchbuilt" I really meant out of anything. I've seen some great chassis built out of many things, Greg P has some great running cars built of brass with a plastic pod.
   As far as the Stock Scalextric cars go after 6 years they've grown a bit stale. As far as comparing the two, my stock chassised '69 Camaro can actually grind out a faster lap than my '70 with it's 3D chassis however I can drive the '70 fast for 25 laps and it's silky smooth. Even my Javelin is about the same speed and though I have it running very smooth and quiet with its inline configuration it's just not the same
  I'll definitely drive my Revo Alfa in classics ll, the more I drive it the more I like it, The GT and GT1 cars have been raced against the Slot Its and NSRs in both GFX and LMP. They are fast enough and smooth enough to compete and on my track they can win, however at Al's the track surface texture is just different enough that the stock REVO tires have less grip making a really good car with a good driver typically a 3rd place car. Jeff and I have tried the Revo "soft" tires but it didn't seem to make a difference. That's why we were discussing racing them against each other.
  The beauty of them is that though they cost about the same as an NSR, but for "new" racers they are ready to race out of the box, they need no aftermarket parts. Just some adjustments, oiling, sand the tires and go racing.
  Some guys complain that they are noisy, that's because they are only assembled at the factory, they are not adjusted or "tuned". Some of mine I never had to touch, a couple sounded like gravel trucks, but a couple of minutes with a screwdriver fixed that.
  Come by this week if you can, it's GFX and Can Am.

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I HAVE  never figured out how to add pics to these forum...

The secondnidator

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Actually it's pretty easy.

The easiest way is to have some storage location on the internet where you can house your images.  Then it's just a link and Bob's your uncle.

"Big Smooth"

Re: 2023 naste championship

Doc,

I use postimages.org. You just set up a free account and you can upload your pictures to their site. Once uploaded, you choose the picture you wish to post and click on the share button and it will bring up a list of links. I usually choose the hotlink for forums but others will also work. When you choose what link you wish, click the button and it will pop up "link copied", then you simply paste the link in whatever forum you are posting to.

Regards
Rico

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

Re: 2023 naste championship

Ok have to try  that thanks

The secondnidator

Re: 2023 naste championship

Well not much action on the subject for yea or na from the peanut  section. Free krispy jelly dounat  for all of those that vote yes or no... Al buying...

The secondnidator

13 (edited by docdoom September 12, 2022 9:50 am)

Re: 2023 naste championship

these are the classes that have been run in the past for the championship
Class 1 - Classic Sports Car 1
          A.  Classic Sports Car 2
Class 4 - Trans Am
Class 7 - Can Am
Class 8 - Le Mans Classics
Class 9 - GT3
Class 12 - Carrera DTM
Class 15 - Sportscar Era Class - Pre-Ground Effect (PGE
Class 16 - Sportscar Era Class - Ground Effect Era (GFX
Class 17 - Sportscar Era Class - LMP Era (LMP)
new classes see first post on rules
BRASS AM /3D TRANS Am
gt revo
                                               VOTE FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO RACE

The secondnidator

14 (edited by docdoom September 12, 2022 9:51 am)

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my vote
1.gt revo
2, BRASS AM /3D TRANS Am
3. Can Am
4.Sportscar Era Class - Pre-Ground Effect (PGE
5 trans am
6. sports car 1

The secondnidator

Re: 2023 naste championship

Vote !!!!!!!

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