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The story for NASTE this month IS the Hawksbill Flyer!

Our Team NASTE entry is ready for Saturday's race. Here's the latest update from our Crew Chief/Builder/Driver Dennis Hart:

"Bill -

Luckily, when I began trouble shooting the video problem I found that the rear plug had simply come undone with all the vibration.  Reconnected it and taped it up.  Works fine.

Also put a strong white glue on that rock ding on the rear left rim.  Don't think it will be a problem.  Evidently its not too smart to go racing around on roads with stones and gravel.  Duhh.

Lastly, weighed the van and allowing for the weight of 14 gallons of gas that I added after the first weighing, we are only at approximately 210 ponds.  That's 90 pounds shy.

We can add about 40 lbs with rock filled milk jugs.  Maybe we just ought to go light on the first run and see what happens. Please think this over.  Lighter would be faster offf the line, but they will catch us downhill.

?????

= Dennis"

WOW! 90 pounds under weight and we still easily hit 35 MPH. I have no doubt that with an added 90Lbs of ballast we will have enough speed! I also feel the section of the track where it starts to level out after the "Learning Curve" is where the race could be won or lost. After walking the track at Mt. Tabor twice, rolling down the course on a bicycle, and from our testing on Sunday and seeing how quickly speeds can scrub off when the road starts levelling off, I think the extra 90 pounds is critical in helping the car maintain its speed through this slow section of the track. I know for sure the Hawksbill Flyer has very low rolling resistance, I've pushed it enough!

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Latest update from The Crew Chief:

"First, kudos to Jimmy for sending me that great T-shirt Native American design of a seahawk looking you right in the eye head on.  WOW !  I free handed it today on the hood of the flyer and imperfect as it is, IT LOOKS TOTALLY AWESOME !

Also, charged the battery, replaced a large broken wood screw on the rear axle fairing, cleaned and oiled the wheels ( running on rural country roads really bangs em up! ) , added more velcro to the the rear hatch cover and put in some velcro tyedowns so the cables do not flop around in the cockpit and get tangled up in the pullies.  Oh yes, also added another spacing washer on each wheel. They were sloppy and showed green paint where they rubbed on the fairings.

Every time I go out to the flyer, she shows me something that needs attention.  The test runs were not valuable  -  they were priceless. Have made enough weights to bring total up to 300 lbs.  On Saturday, I will start light and add as needed. My decision.

Troy and I ARE going to the post race celebration into the evening.  It will be Christmas and I will want to open my presents.

Valeria Victrix !

- Dennis"

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Today was the day Team NASTE left its mark on the Portland Adult Soap Box Derby held on Mt. Tabor. Congratulations to Dennis Hart on his excellent finish and fast runs!

http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_3139.jpg

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For Rico and I our day started with breakfast at Denny's at 4:15 AM this morning. At 5:00 AM we were at the track for setup duty. Each team is required to have at least two voluteers to help the derby organizers. By 9:00 AM everything was in full swing with teams team up their pit areas and getting ready to race. Team NASTE was set up in a nice shaded area with the Hawksbill Flyer on display for all to see!

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Glad to hear all went well!  I presume fun and amusement was had by all?

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On his first run Dennis stopped the radar gun at 37 MPH. He had posted the second fastest speed at that point. The car was handling great! In his second run Dennis reached 38 MPH and his first two runs had him in fourth position and qualified for the finals. The nine fastest cars made up the first set of elimination rounds. Although the Hawksbill Flyer ran fast and true it just wasn't quite fast enough to beat the veterans of the hill. We finished nineth overall out of 56 entries. We feel we accomplished a lot in our first attempt and we are very proud of Dennis and all that he accomplished in building and driver the Hawksbill Flyer! Thank you Dennis, this was a fantastic experience for all of us!

Congrats to the etire NASTE Team on the hill supporting Dennis and the Hawksbill Flyer, Al Cristensen, Rico Locati, Jimmy Jones, and our fantastic pusher Troy Hart! You guys did an outstanding job!

http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_3159.jpg

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You can see video and more photos on our NASTE Facebook page here:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/NASTESLOTCARS/

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It was a very long, HOT day but in the end everybody knew who the old guys were.  Congrats Dennis on your excellent performance, you made Team Naste proud. Here's some of the pics I took:


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Link to rest: http://s361.photobucket.com/user/reek45 … amp;page=1

Rico

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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It was a blast! Yes, for Rico and I a VERY LONG day, and at times pretty dang hot! But we found shade, good friends, and a lot of fun!

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OregonLive has lots of pics including one of our favorite

http://www.oregonlive.com/events/index. … short_home

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Just a side note that just occurred to me. The majority of the cars that were in the finals were 3 wheeled vehicles. Those cars had a minimum of a 25% friction loss advantage over the Flyer. If you remove those cars from the stats the Hawksbill Flyer was one of the fastest 4 wheeled vehicles on the mountain yesterday! After reviewing my photos and videos, I believe there was maybe only one other 4 wheeled vehicle that beat the Flyer.........maybe.

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I would agree with that assessment. I looked at the time board and did rudimentary calculations in my head, Dennis was the fifth fastest qualifier. He just got placed with two really fast cars the shoot out.

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Did most of those have the third wheel in the rear?

"Big Smooth"

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Yes. The three wheelers had the third wheel in the rear.

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Here are the videos from the August 20th race on Mt. Tabor:

https://youtu.be/3MTe1gVHoEg

https://youtu.be/rk6egkshgzM

https://youtu.be/y6AIyQYwe-4

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Looks like Dennis had a three wheeled car on the tow back up, but it doesn't appear to help.  Wheel Diameter makes a difference too. Those taller wheels have the bearings working only about half as hard as Dennis's smaller wheels.

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Mitch58 wrote:

Looks like Dennis had a three wheeled car on the tow back up...

Yeah, I noticed that too.  Is there a story there?

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Luckily Dennis lost that left rear wheel after he completed his last run. In the shut down area the cars had to evade a speed bump. The pavement around the speed bump was very rough and when Dennis went around the speed bump the wheel came off. He was able to reinstall the wheel in the pits before we loaded the car for the trip home.

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That sounds like a survivor to me!

"Big Smooth"

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Message from Bryan Dickerson:

"Wow!
Congrats Dennis and crew!

Bryan D."

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Here is a great shot of Dennis at speed!

http://katu.com/news/local/photos-2016- … k#photo-35

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You might recognize a couple folks in this pic:

http://katu.com/news/local/photos-2016- … k#photo-30

And another shot of the Flyer:

http://katu.com/news/local/photos-2016- … rk#photo-8

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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There are more great photos from the 2016 Portland Adult Soap Box Derby here: https://desomer.smugmug.com/Events/PDX- … /n-L8wCtd/

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After a successful run in the 2016 Portland Adult Soap Box Derby, Team NASTE has decided to go with a two car team for 2017!

The plan for the Hawksbill Flyer at this point is for some upgrades to try to improve the cars performance. Chris Kouba decided to field a second car using a three wheel design.

Chris Kouba is well on the way to completion on the second car. Chris started construction on Friday. These photos were taken Saturday night! Obviously Chris is a Master builder in scales other than just 1/32!

http://www.naste.org/members/bill/CKGravityRacer.jpg

http://www.naste.org/members/bill/CKGravityRacer2.jpg

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I wonder what the paint job is going to look like???????

The secondnidator