Re: Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway - Renovation

Looks good Bill! Let me know if there is anything I can help with.

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Will do Tommy! Thanks!

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Friday morning. Gonna be hot today. Coffee'd up and headed out to the shop early. I was able to complete one of the changes I had in mind for the track. When we moved the track into my shop I kept it away from the back wall leaving space between the back straight and the work benches. With turn marshal access to the backside of the track I was able to eliminate the need for the turn marshal "hole" on the right side of the track. After taking some measurements I decided I could also eliminate the turn marshal "hole" on the left side of the track inside the banked curve. I figured I could take 16" out of the infield without losing any structural strength in the table. So the music was turned up, and out came the saws-all!

This is what the section of track looked like before I got started.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2748IFC.jpg

This is where the surgery took place.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2767IFC.jpg

I had to remove one 2x4 frame rail. It was a short section of 2x4 table frame work, and there was a 4x4 post on either side. Even without any further bracing there would not have been any structural strength loss. The MDF track is screwed down over a 1/2" plywood table top.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2769IFC.jpg

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well you are getting further than I have. I way over built my table and only can get so much done before it is way to hot to work..
all the plywood and side boards are off just need to break down the table frames  and start the new table build..

The secondnidator

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Because this area will be subjected to a lot of pressure from turn marshals leaning in to retrieve cars, I installed a replacement 2x4 in the tabletop framework. I installed this one at the same angle as the track surface to provide extra support for the relocated side board.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2771IFC.jpg

A little cleanup of the rough cuts was called for after the bracing was installed.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2773IFC.jpg

And ta da....no more need for anyone to crawl into the "hole"!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2776IFC.jpg

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I was out early again this morning to try to beat the heat. The shop stays nice and cool, but I had some 2x4s to cut and I like to do those cuts outside.

Once I had the doors closed back up to keep the heat out, I got started on the removal of the hairpin turn. First I pulled the braid up and dug out the screws joining the track surface pieces. The paper I had stuffed into the screw recess hole before applying the bondo worked out really well. I was able to easily expose the screw heads and did not have to dig bondo out of the phillips heads!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2777IFC.jpg

http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2778IFC.jpg

I installed two temporary legs to help support the curve section on its own. Then I removed the two bolts and nuts, and the screws holding the hairpin to the rest of the track tabletop. The curve separated easily once I had removed ALL the screws.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2780IFC.jpg

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With the two temporary legs attached the curve is stable standing alone.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2782IFC.jpg

The curve is positioned to maintain 18 inches clearance from the other portions of the track to allow for turn marshals. Turn marshals will be able to access all portions of the track without crawling! No more hands and knees stuff for us old guys!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2786IFC.jpg

This is where the hairpin will sit in relation to the rest of the track. I will be adding about 12 feet overall to the lap length. The next step is to build the tabletop portion tying in the space between the curve and the rest of the track.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2788IFC.jpg

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Looking good Bill

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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wb0s wrote:

With the two temporary legs attached the curve is stable standing alone.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2782IFC.jpg

The curve is positioned to maintain 18 inches clearance from the other portions of the track to allow for turn marshals. Turn marshals will be able to access all portions of the track without crawling! No more hands and knees stuff for us old guys!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2786IFC.jpg

This is where the hairpin will sit in relation to the rest of the track. I will be adding about 12 feet overall to the lap length. The next step is to build the tabletop portion tying in the space between the curve and the rest of the track.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2788IFC.jpg

looking like somebody been drinking way to much java......

The secondnidator

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Up early, 8 cups, then out to the shop!

36 (edited by Mitch58 August 15, 2020 10:18 pm)

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That's a pretty wicked knife there Bill, just so you know they make some pretty awesome specialty tools that are a lot easier to use than that knife.
Let me know if you need help. If you cut your self I can even sew you up, you may squirm a bit but that doesn't bother me much, at least it didn't the last time I did it.

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That knife is my go to all purpose tool! When damage needs to be done it'll do it! Between that and my saws-all, I'm good to go!

I'm going to try to get some serious work done this week. I have no schedule yet because I'm also trying to work in days to take my Granddaughter driving. The driving days are harder to schedule because of my Granddaughter's spur of the moment schedule!

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This morning I got the perimeter of the frame for the new section built. I like to do my cutting outside, so by 11:30am it was getting too hot. I also ran out of long 2x4s, so I shut 'er down. So that means tomorrow morning I have to go out and trim our "wild" bush so I can top off the trailer load and take it to the dump. Then I can go pick up more 2x4s and the two sheets of 1/2" MDF I need for the track surface...........

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You’ve been busy, nice job.

Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.

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Yes, thanks Rico!

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Wow, looks like you are adding about 15' of track to the layout.

"Big Smooth"

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Man Bill; you have been busy! I will be gone for most of this week, but when I get back I am available to give you a hand if you want. Your progress is looking good!

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Thanks Howie, I figured you'd be gone this week. I've been getting some of the easier stuff done that I can accomplish by myself while working in "other" projects (bush trimming, trip to the dump, driving with my Granddaughter while she has her permit).......

It will be an 11 to 12 foot lap length increase when it is all said and done.

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Must be good stress  relief  after the test drives hey  bill

The secondnidator

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It definitely helps relieve a little stress Doc!

I don't have much to show for today's efforts. I spent a little extra time trying to find materials. It seems as though every time I restore or re-construct an existing track I find myself wondering if it would have just been easier to start over from scratch. Today some of the "challenges" that come up when re-constructing an existing track made themselves known. First off this track surface is 5/8 inch MDF. Now the easiest way to make changes in the layout is to use like materials, so that all the joint line up easily. Well guess what, I found out after visiting Home Depot and our local lumber yard, 5/8 inch MDF is no longer easy to find. So I went with 3/4 inch MDF. I'll use 1/2 inch plywood for the tabletop instead of the 5/8 inch used on the rest of the tabletop. This should put my track surface joints even where the track is flat to the tabletop. Where the straight from the exit of the banked curve comes down the hill, I will have to do some fancy shimming to make the 5/8 inch roadbed flush with the 3/4 inch roadbed.

The next challenge was with the 180 degree hairpin. As the hairpin was originally mounted to the tabletop. the entry into the corner was elevated making for downhill travel through the curve. With the layout reconfiguration the lead into the hairpin will be with a flat transition. This meant I had to remove all the screws screwing the MDF roadbed to the tabletop. Not terribly difficult but time consuming. I used a magnet (I've found many "useful" uses for 1/32 slot car traction magnets) to locate the screws, and then dug out the bondo covering them with a knife so I could remove them. I had to remove almost every screw so I could knock out the shim materials under the roadbed. The profile for this curve will be totally opposite of what it was originally.

So now it's hot and I'm done for the day!

I cut and installed a couple 2x4s in the framework for cross bracing.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2796IFC.jpg

In this photo you can see the 18 or so screws I had to remove to get the shims out from under the roadbed.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2800IFC.jpg

This shows the original profile of the corner when it was positioned at the exit of the banked turn. Not gonna work where it is located now!
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2799IFC.jpg

Re: Inslot's Checkered Flag Raceway - Renovation

Why not just build the whole new section, that way you only need to shim  the one end, and take care of trying to get that angle correct on the corner..

The secondnidator

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This is a very good question Doc, one I have contemplated myself. I guess it's just nostalgia. I want to retain as much of the original track and its history as possible. It would probably be easier to just re-route a new corner, and it would only cost an additional $30 for another sheet of MDF. But there's that stubborn part of me I constantly deal with, and there's the "challenge" part of the endeavor..........We'll see how it goes, it's not over yet.....

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Well nothing like challenge  to make you pull your hair. Just look at me. My whole life been a challenge and you can see how much hair I have. Good luck

The secondnidator

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What I accomplished today:
1. Another trip to Home Depot (and NOT finding what I actually wanted......again....).
2. Another trip to the lumber yard (to get what I actually needed at about the same price as Home Depot....if they had it).
3. Cut, fit, and installed tabletop plywood surface.
4. Added additional 2x4 bracing to the tabletop framework.
5. Played around with lane designs to reconnect the hairpin turn to the rest of the layout (most fun part).

I used 1/2" plywood (OK, 15/32") for the tabletop. The original portion is 5/8", which you can't find anymore. Even 1/2" and 3/4" is undersized by 1/32" now days. I mean come on, how much can 1/32" actually save them?
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2802IFC.jpg

Here you can see where I drew in the proposed new slots that will tie the hairpin curve back into the rest of the course.
http://www.naste.org/members/bill/IMG_2806IFC.jpg

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Looks fantastic.  In an imaginary way.

"Big Smooth"